Star Trek TV series(es) - general discussion of the franchise

[DotCommunist]

This lot seems particularly inept when using their transporter as well, with so many storyline threats and device plots in this series so far emanating from mishaps when using it.

I love transporter accident episodes. There was one that made two rikers. Of course the earlier the star trek setting, the cruder the transporter will be hence more accidents.

 

[Chz]

Decided to do a 7-day Paramount trial to check out Strange New Worlds, as it seems to have been so well received so far. Very happy to say we weren’t disappointed- first few episodes were very good and engaging, what any Star Trek episode should be doing but which Discovery and Picard had largely failed to achieve.

Not perfect, and a few outdated cliches and laughably absurd historical cliches from the franchise persist, such as the famed practice of sending half your top command officers on every away mission. This lot seems particularly inept when using their transporter as well, with so many storyline threats and device plots in this series so far emanating from mishaps when using it. But I’m being picky and this is the best ST series for years.

it is quite good, compared to the stuff we've had since Voyager. But the problem with this statement is that Lower Decks exists.

 

[krtek a houby]

I love transporter accident episodes. There was one that made two rikers. Of course the earlier the star trek setting, the cruder the transporter will be hence more accidents.

As a kid, the transporter accident in The Motion Picture resulted in a few nightmares!

 

[mwgdrwg]

I love transporter accident episodes. There was one that made two rikers. Of course the earlier the star trek setting, the cruder the transporter will be hence more accidents.

Even Tuvix?

 

[maomao]

Is anyone else getting Keir Starmer vibes from Captain Pike? I think it's the hair; it's ruining it for me.

 

[T & P]

Is anyone else getting Keir Starmer vibes from Captain Pike? I think it's the hair; it's ruining it for me.

His hair reminds me of that BBC film reviewer, sans glassses...

 

[SpookyFrank]

Is anyone else getting Keir Starmer vibes from Captain Pike? I think it's the hair; it's ruining it for me.

Pike is charming and likeable and good at his job. So no, I've never got him mixed up with Keir Starmer.

 

[SpookyFrank]

His hair reminds me of that BBC film reviewer, sans glassses...

No, Mark Kermode got his hairdo from Monsters Inc...

 

[RedRedRose]

I haven't looked at season 3 or 4 of Discovery yet. However, New Star Trek seems a return to form.

 

[moochedit]

Is anyone else getting Keir Starmer vibes from Captain Pike? I think it's the hair; it's ruining it for me.

No i hadn't but I can't unsee that now

 

[RedRedRose]

So, a question for the hardcore. Which are the best and worst holodeck episodes? (Any series)

 

[The Octagon]

Geordi falling in love with the holo version of the Enterprise's designer (or something similar) was a low point.

Bonus points for the episode later on when he meets the real woman and she's snarky with him, lol.

 

[RedRedRose]

I always remember the Sherlock Holmes TNG episode being quite good; there was also that Voyager episode where they went old-school 50's sci-fi schlock (including black and white visuals).

 

[krtek a houby]

Not a fan of the holodeck EPs in any of the shows

Feel the same about dream sequences

 

[Signal 11]

Is anyone else getting Keir Starmer vibes from Captain Pike? I think it's the hair; it's ruining it for me.

 

[Chz]

I've said it before, it's both the best and the worst holodeck episode. It is so fucking awful that you have to love it.

 

[DotCommunist]

 

[emanymton]

I've said it before, it's both the best and the worst holodeck episode. It is so fucking awful that you have to love it.

Not a holodeck episode it is a Q episode.

 

[Cerv]

So, a question for the hardcore. Which are the best and worst holodeck episodes? (Any series)

best
Emergence from the last series of TNG.
where the crew are stuck inside some kind of dream the Enterprise (yes, the actual ship) is having made up of various holodeck programs mashed together, as the Enterprise gives birth to a totally new form of life.

worst
Janeway's Irish village shagging

 

[SpookyFrank]

So, a question for the hardcore. Which are the best and worst holodeck episodes? (Any series)

The Sherlock Holmes one is a classic.

 

[maomao]

worst
Janeway's Irish village shagging

Scottish. It was a Brigadoon programme she was running.

 

[Chz]

Not a holodeck episode it is a Q episode.

Oh bugger me, you're right of course! Somehow it turned into a holodeck episode in my memory.

 

[emanymton]

Oh bugger me, you're right of course! Somehow it turned into a holodeck episode in my memory.

I only know because Worf smashing Geordi's lute (or whatever it is) then apologising is the funniest moment in Star Trek in my opinion.

 

[krtek a houby]

The Voyager one on an oirish planet

Desperate stuff

 

[strung out]

In the fandom, the most despised holodeck episode ever is probably the final episode of Enterprise, because it's basically an episode of The Next Generation, with Riker and Troi taking part in an episode of Enterprise on the Holodeck during the events of The Pegasus.

 

[Cerv]

Scottish. It was a Brigadoon programme she was running.

The Voyager one on an oirish planet

Desperate stuff

This is the one I was thinking of - Fair Haven
Janeway falls in love with a holodeck character from a 19th C Irish village the crew all hang out in to relax (once then never mention again).

Fair Haven (episode)

The crew relaxes in Paris's latest holodeck creation: an idealized 19th century Irish village, where Captain Janeway falls in love with a holographic character. Tom Paris has created a very detailed program in 19th century Ireland, a town called Fair Haven. He wants it to be a place where the...

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I don't recall any Brigadoon reference in Voyager.
There was a DS9 episode, where Dax falls in love with an alien on a planet that falls in and out of our physical universe every 100 years like a magical village. but that didn't involve a holodeck at all.

 

[maomao]

This is the one I was thinking of - Fair Haven
Janeway falls in love with a holodeck character from a 19th C Irish village the crew all hang out in to relax (once then never mention again).

Fair Haven (episode)

The crew relaxes in Paris's latest holodeck creation: an idealized 19th century Irish village, where Captain Janeway falls in love with a holographic character. Tom Paris has created a very detailed program in 19th century Ireland, a town called Fair Haven. He wants it to be a place where the...

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I don't recall any Brigadoon reference in Voyager.
There was a DS9 episode, where Dax falls in love with an alien on a planet that falls in and out of our physical universe every 100 years like a magical village. but that didn't involve a holodeck at all.

I think I never made it all the way through that episode. I often struggled with Voyager. It was my mum, who is both Scottish and tediously pedantic who always referred to that one as the Brigadoon episode but there may have been a plot similarity (falling in love and wanting to stay in the village). Happy to admit I'm wrong anyway.

 

[Cerv]

I think I never made it all the way through that episode.

I wish I'd had your wisdom in my wasted youth

 

[Dystopiary]

I quite liked the one where Janeway was a governess. There was some leaking of this other world into her real life on Voyager but can't remember how.

 

[T & P]

So, a question for the hardcore. Which are the best and worst holodeck episodes? (Any series)

Don’t know about worst, but whenever you see one that features Patrick Stewart wearing period clothes, you can be assured you’re onto a winner