SNP leadership election (2023)

[redsquirrel]

I don’t think Sturgeon is planning on standing down as an MSP. Her remarks when she resigned seemed to include the things she’d be doing from the back benches.

Ah I'm missed that

 

[Fedayn]

This may be the only time I will agree politically with Sas but I don't think Humza is fit to be FM, for a whole number of reasons, dating back a good few yrs too

Wouldn't vote for any of them, utter shower. If that is the future of Scotland then we're all fecked.

 

[steeplejack]

Unfortunately I think we're all fecked whatever the identity of the next SNP leader

 

[Fedayn]

Now it's Ash Regan's turn....

 

[danny la rouge]

Fuck sake.

 

[danny la rouge]

Nominations close tomorrow. Is it only going to be Yousaf left?

 

[redsquirrel]

Jesus.
I think Sturgeon (and Salmond before the shit came out and he want down the loon hole) must have given me an image of a far more competent SNP that it really is.

 

[Ĝasper]

Meloni vibes of Regan

 

[geminisnake]

Damn, it was only meant to be the bottom one

 

[skyscraper101]

I’d discounted Yousaf when first trying to think of a successor the day Sturgeon resigned because he hadn’t covered himself in glory in his current position. He has the charisma to speak on TV, but I wasn’t thinking that would be enough. I knew Swinney wouldn’t stand: he’s been there before and it didn’t suit him - he’s too much of a mild mannered bank manager. And I literally couldn’t think of anyone else. I’d never heard of Ash Regan. So I said maybe Forbes, but from a field of none.

The most impressive performer in the SNP is Mhairi Black. She’s an MP (Westminster), though, and so won’t be in the running. Plus I think she’s a bit too much of an outsider.

Black is the only one in my book who can give as good as Sturgeon. She'd be great at the job. As it stands though, the only one who doesn't seem to completely fail at media interviews is Yousaf.

 

[steeplejack]

Regan was never a serious contender anyway

 

[steeplejack]

I think this twitter thread is a good representation of the poison and mistrust there is within the SNP and the sheer loathing amongst its opponents presently, largely posted for those who don't know Scots politics very well or read much about it. For context Mhairi Hunter is a pro-Humza cheerleader who was calling for Forbes to withdraw a few days ago after her bigoted religious views became known, because it was "damaging to the party".



The succession to Sturgeon is an absolutely toxic binfire only a week into the process and very clear that whoever wins it will be bitterly opposed by a sizeable minority within the party itself.

The SNP, always a delicate truce between competing and irreconcilable interests, is entering a protracted carrion stage. It still astonishes me that there is absolutely no opposition worthy of the name. If there were the SNP would be falling apart by now. That Scotland will be governed by a crumbling mannequin of a government for at least another few years is in nobody's interests.

 

[danny la rouge]

For context Mhairi Hunter is a pro-Humza cheerleader

Mhairi Hunter comes from an SNP dynasty. Her mother, Alison, held Murrell’s post for many years.

 

[weepiper]

Humza Yousaf appears not to have been entirely forthright about why he missed the final vote on the gay marriage bill.

Former SNP minister challenges Yousaf's gay marriage vote excuse

THE favourite to be Scotland’s next first minister is facing questions over his credibility after his account of missing a key vote on gay…

www.heraldscotland.com

 

[danny la rouge]

Humza Yousaf appears not to have been entirely forthright about why he missed the final vote on the gay marriage bill.

Former SNP minister challenges Yousaf's gay marriage vote excuse

THE favourite to be Scotland’s next first minister is facing questions over his credibility after his account of missing a key vote on gay…

www.heraldscotland.com

What a shower.

 

[Cerv]

this Alex Neil doesn't seem to be operating on entirely honest motives.
backing Forbes for leader because of Yousaf's stance on gay marriage not being 100% positive enough for him?

 

[weepiper]

this Alex Neil doesn't seem to be operating on entirely honest motives.
backing Forbes for leader because of Yousaf's stance on gay marriage not being 100% positive enough for him?

Kate Forbes, while her views are reprehensible, appears to have been the most honest of the lot. None of it is very edifying is it

 

[belboid]

Kate Forbes, while her views are reprehensible, appears to have been the most honest of the lot. None of it is very edifying is it

Doesn't seem to have done her too much harm either:

The survey of 1,001 people who voted for the party at the last Scottish Parliament election, carried out by communications agency The Big Partnership between Monday and Wednesday, found 28% favoured Ms Forbes as the next leader, against 20% for Mr Yousaf and 7% for Ms Regan. About a third were undecided.

Ash Regan, Kate Forbes and Humza Yousaf will fight SNP leadership contest

Kate Forbes, Ash Regan and Humza Yousaf are competing to succeed Nicola Sturgeon as SNP leader and first minister.

www.bbc.co.uk

A bit dubious, as 45% is well over a third normally.

 

[Fedayn]

And it gets murkier and murkier.... This could be a bloodbath,,,, The tweet from Leona Skene is interesting)

 

[Fedayn]

And there's more.... There's always more....

 

[steeplejack]

A claim in this morning's Daily Ranger that the SNP MSPs would vote in a Labour FM rather than endorse a membership choice of Kate Forbes as leader.

"Ash Reagan" meanwhile in between having to issue a Nicola Murray-esque defence of her decision to send her children to private school, is calling for Murrell to step down as SNP Chief Executive, owing to a conflict of interest in his managing the leadership election, and also to deny that she is Salmond's glovepuppet.

 

[steeplejack]

Interesting twitter thread on the nature of the electorate that will choose the new SNP leader (in short: standing on a renewed "social conservative" ticket unlikely to win any candidate the vote. Note also dominance of PMC in the membership)

 

[skyscraper101]

Is it me or does Reagan not have the strangest hybrid accent? Like half English, half Scottish. She needs to drink more Irn Bru.

 

[steeplejack]

Final context: in the oddball electoral city of Aberdeen Labour triumphed in a local council by-election with the SNP vote 10% down. On STV Labour won a narrow contest on the 8th stage. Sleepy Cuddles party beat the Greens (stony ground for the Greens admittedly).

 

[redsquirrel]

Interesting twitter thread on the nature of the electorate that will choose the new SNP leader (in short: standing on a renewed "social conservative" ticket unlikely to win any candidate the vote. Note also dominance of PMC in the membership)

Thanks for that, not properly sampled but still interesting results - and reinforces the distinction between progressives and socialists

 

[Chz]

Jesus.
I think Sturgeon (and Salmond before the shit came out and he want down the loon hole) must have given me an image of a far more competent SNP that it really is.

I've heard that exact sentiment from quite a lot of people in the past few days.

 

[danny la rouge]

For those who are keen to see the SNP disintegrate before our eyes:

STV to host live debate between First Minister candidates

Three candidates to become the new SNP leader will go head-to-head on March 7.

news.stv.tv

“Kate Forbes, Humza Yousaf and Ash Regan will go head-to-head in the hustings, hosted by STV’s political editor Colin Mackay, at 9pm on Tuesday, March 7.”

 

[Johnny Vodka]

It's at times like this you wish you were a unionist gammon. Must be like all their Xmases have come at once...

 

[danny la rouge]

Watch the parking meters.

 

[two sheds]

Comment from Mhairi Black looks a fair take.