maomao
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I did. Are you looking at the bike section?
Side-by-side cycling
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Plastic Paddy
Brilliant! Reach a bit further and you can clutch a few more straws.
maomao
普費斯
Hardly. I'm bored and trying to work out what you think you've proved other than that 50% of cyclists have lights fitted even when they're not required to.
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Plastic Paddy
I don't. Not YET.
However I think it's amusing that within 3 minutes of taking up your challenge we've found 100% of cyclists breaking the law in some way.
maomao
普費斯
Except for the one on the right who hasn't.
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Plastic Paddy
Well no. Not if you stretch the interpretation of "crossing the stop line" to breaking point. If that was a car you'd be doing your bollocks and you know it!
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HaveMyPassword123
The law applies to all vehicular traffic including cycles, and the requirement is to not proceed beyond the stop line. This is nicely codified for you as HC rule 71: You MUST NOT cross the stop line when the traffic lights are red.
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HaveMyPassword123
Where's this seperate law for cyclists that allows them to just leave their back wheel behind the stop line?
maomao
普費斯
Hardly. If I 'did my bollocks' every time I saw a minor breech of the Highway Code I'd live in a permanent state of apoplexy. I know you like to pretend your interlocutors are angry or upset to make you feel like you're winning but I haven't been happier in years.
I assumed the law for cars must be different if you thought she had broken the law which she clearly hasn't. She is on the line.
ska invita
back on the other side
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HaveMyPassword123
"Proceeding beyond" a stop line happens when any part of a vehicle crosses the line, whether that be all but the rear bumper of an articulated lorry, or the handlebars of a bicycle.
maomao
普費斯
Says who?
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Me.
maomao
普費斯
O. I thought you might have a legal source or something because that's clearly not what 'proceeding beyond' means in standard English. Could you stop making stuff up please.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
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HaveMyPassword123
It's so obvious that's what it means that they saw no need to explicitly define it in TSRGD. If you think this is wrong I refer you to all the court cases involving traffic light cameras.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
link pls
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it's a bloody good thing cyclists don't have number plates or there'd be hundreds of these videos referring to individual cyclists hopping onto the pavement
maomao
普費斯
Please do refer me. Some actual evidence from you rather than your usual pointless blather would be a welcome addition to the conversation.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it would also be extremely surprising if it came from ps
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HaveMyPassword123
I don't know of any freely available online repository of all such court cases. Perhaps you could ask a librarian?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
right. so you say there's a load of court cases which support your stance. but when asked to share these it turns out you can't.
do you subscribe to any pay resources contain all these court cases?
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HaveMyPassword123
You've failed to demonstrate how the law could be interpreted in any other way than one I have explained. There is no seperate law for bicycles, and the law as applied to cars and lorries clearly does not allow only the rear of the vehicle to remain behind the line.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
separate
you've failed to demonstrate that anyone else interprets the law as you do
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HaveMyPassword123
Why not ask this firm for advice?
Solicitors for Traffic Light Offence in Hounslow | MB Law Ltd Solicitors
24/7 Solicitors for Traffic Light Offence in Hounslow, Slough, Twickenham etc. Contact for immediate legal assistance and to avoid penalties: 02088633666.
www.mblawltd.com
"The offence will be conferred if any part of the vehicle crosses the stop line when the red light is appearing. Regardless of the possibility that it was just the front wheels that crossed a driver would, in any case, have submitted an offence. "
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i don't think i'd like to rely on lawyers who can't spell. they swap from offense to offence with abandon.Why not ask this firm for advice?
Solicitors for Traffic Light Offence in Hounslow | MB Law Ltd Solicitors
24/7 Solicitors for Traffic Light Offence in Hounslow, Slough, Twickenham etc. Contact for immediate legal assistance and to avoid penalties: 02088633666.
"The offence will be conferred if any part of the vehicle crosses the stop line when the red light is appearing. Regardless of the possibility that it was just the front wheels that crossed a driver would, in any case, have submitted an offence. "
there is no explanation there of what offence is being committed or the statute which it concerns. so it's utterly useless.
e2a: the final two sentences there - it is no barrier to contend that the light was on golden when you experienced it. continuing on through a golden light is quite a bit of an offence as experiencing when it is in red - it's not written by someone whose first language is english is it. nor i suspect was it written by a lawyer.
maomao
普費斯
I suggest you write to the compilers of the Highway Code and let them know rule 71 is redundant then.
maomao
普費斯
That's why he likes them.
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HaveMyPassword123
Go find some better ones then, if you really can't comprehend that to proceed beyond a line means to go over it.
