danski
"vibey"
Nailing a batten along would be stronger if you’ve got the space
Show us yer house and house-related meddlings
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
Well that's easier than if it were abutting a building as you can wrap downwards along all edges. Like you say, make sure the wind can't get under it. Also try and make sure it isn't directing water to run down the walls instead of dripping clear of them. And the first time it rains, i'd check that it isn't causing water to pool on top somewhere because if you get a lot of water pooling it'll put weight on the roof.
What is the existing roof, felt or something?
What is the existing roof, felt or something?
bimble
floofy
Yep i think i'll try to just staple it to the little overhanging bits of roof all around so that wind should just sort of skirt over. The roof is that scratchy felt over some slabs of a strange material that looks like its made of compressed waste plastic (?). Looks like the stuff from a paper shredder formed into tiles.
danski
"vibey"
danski
"vibey"
Even if you were to do multiple shorter sections of battening if would help as the timber is clamping the tarp so less likely to tear.
bimble
floofy
that stuff yes. whats it called and will it be stapled? no timber yard open until tomorrow and i cant do this tomorrow so bodge it is.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
That's wood wool board. Is that what you can see on the inside? The felt is unlikely to be laid directly onto that, there ought to be plywood or something, and the edges that you will be trying to staple into are unlikely to be made of that either. The way to find out if staples will take, is to try a few. If they do, they probably won't last very long though, they will just rust through and it will be easy for the tarp just to tear. My preferred method for a bodge like this would be same as danski suggests, a batten or you could use some kind of metal band like below. A variation on that would be to use screws and big washers. A screw will give you a much firmer fixing and will take longer to rust through. And the washer spreads the pressure over a larger area of tarp making it less likely to tear through.
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bimble
floofy
It is that, wood wool board, that’s what you can see above you inside and also what the edges are made of, and It won’t be stapled at all. 
A massive bodge to last a week now (stapling tiny staples into the stupid floppy felt), will leave weights on of course.
screws & big washers is great idea and I will do that. So unsatisfying doing all this effort for a crap job.
A massive bodge to last a week now (stapling tiny staples into the stupid floppy felt), will leave weights on of course.
screws & big washers is great idea and I will do that. So unsatisfying doing all this effort for a crap job.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I'm no expert on that woodwool stuff, so you prompted me to look it up. I thought it was only really used for ceilings and linings, but it looks like you can use it to make the actual roof deck too, as in it can take the weight of the roof. So there you go.
If it's that material that you have to fix into, I wonder if you might have problems getting screws to take hold too. The only way to find out would be to try.
Have you worked out how and where the felt roof is leaking? It might actually be less work to fix it directly by patching, than to try and cover the whole thing with tarpaulin and then have this problem with fixing the edges. Having done bodge jobs on a couple of felt roofs fairly recently, I speak partly from experience.
If it's that material that you have to fix into, I wonder if you might have problems getting screws to take hold too. The only way to find out would be to try.
Have you worked out how and where the felt roof is leaking? It might actually be less work to fix it directly by patching, than to try and cover the whole thing with tarpaulin and then have this problem with fixing the edges. Having done bodge jobs on a couple of felt roofs fairly recently, I speak partly from experience.
bimble
floofy
Maybe I could do something from inside, the water comes in via the (steel?) seams In between those boards. For now its craply stapled all around, and weighted along each edge with a bunch of old slate roof tiles. I think you’re right, that stuff doesn’t accept screws either. in the circumstances I will just live with the tarp, weight it down more, and hope that will do. One fine day in a year better than this one I will put a new pitched roof on there. There is a whole nother leaking flat roof I need to deal with which is part of the actual house, so that’s where the money has to go for now.
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danski
"vibey"
Sealing leaks from inside is unlikely to be a great solution. Maybe very temporarily but better to look for another solution.
What about bitumen paint outside? Is it jus cracks/splits in the felt or are chunks missing?
Sorry, posted in error. I’ve been using that for my floor.
I’ll have a look for a roofing one....
bimble
floofy
That very pointedly says for walls and floors. Leaving out any mention of roofs. Will investigate further once this bodge blows off, in a week or two.Sealing leaks from inside is unlikely to be a great solution. Maybe very temporarily but better to look for another solution.
What about bitumen paint outside? Is it jus cracks/splits in the felt or are chunks missing?
This is very good
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danski
"vibey"
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
Definitely a complete waste of time trying to fix any roof leak from the inside.
What often happens with old felt roofs is that the water gets through at some small place, then travels horizontally under the felt layer until it finds a way through to the ceiling. So, where it appears on the inside doesn't often tell you much about where the leak is.
You can try that paint-on stuff as a temporary solution especially if, looking from the outside, there is some place where there's obviously a defect in the felt layer. You may or may not have success.
In the longer term you don't necessarily need to replace it with a pitched roof. Just get the felt roof re-done properly.
What often happens with old felt roofs is that the water gets through at some small place, then travels horizontally under the felt layer until it finds a way through to the ceiling. So, where it appears on the inside doesn't often tell you much about where the leak is.
You can try that paint-on stuff as a temporary solution especially if, looking from the outside, there is some place where there's obviously a defect in the felt layer. You may or may not have success.
In the longer term you don't necessarily need to replace it with a pitched roof. Just get the felt roof re-done properly.
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
mauvais Try Clay Studio in Hulme for handmade tiles. They might be able to make some to your specifications, or if you fancied making them yourself, they might be able to facilitate that. They used to run lots of workshops pre-pandemic, and they rent use of studio and kiln.
Clay Studio
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Or Majolica Works in town also accept commissions.
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How far have you got with parquet floor? Have you had any quotes yet? I'm wondering whether to get my sitting room done, or whether to get it carpeted again. If you've found a good supplier/fitter, I'd appreciate it if you'd please let me know who they are and give me contact details.
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equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
bimble
floofy
equationgirl dont have one yet, bit scared of them but do want. You know it looks really quite tidy from a distance and with the tiles on i think might be ok for a little while. 
bellaozzydog
rolling turds in glitter
I’ve got two pallet loads of green elm salvaged from the bottom (Barwell) of a royal marine landing craft utility (LCU)
It’s good looking stuff and some has gone towards a rough decking area at the top of the garden
I’d like to use more of it but no commercial timber yard will plane it for me as it’s apparently got a layer of sand injected surface wood which destroys any blade trying to cut it
It’s good looking stuff and some has gone towards a rough decking area at the top of the garden
I’d like to use more of it but no commercial timber yard will plane it for me as it’s apparently got a layer of sand injected surface wood which destroys any blade trying to cut it
izz
Increased Leisure Citizen
Personally, I wouldn't want to buy any house without a survey but am very wary on money matters.
Boudicca
Seaside Queen
It's a bit more 'drippy' than Dulux but it covers OK. Unexceptional but ok would be my verdict.
bimble
floofy
could you rent a planing machine and just get told off when you return it? jewson have them to hire.
clicker
nanook rubs it....
Only once, but it was exterior paint. It was shite, but I thought maybe it had been put on in too hot weather. I don't even know if that's a thing, but it blistered and they would fill up with water when it rained. Warty, wibbly wobbly windowsills.
mauvais
on reddit or something
Tiles are in progress, we're using Tile Productions in Clitheroe who did our bathroom. We've had drawings sent back which we approved, should get some handpainted results to share before long.mauvais Try Clay Studio in Hulme for handmade tiles. They might be able to make some to your specifications, or if you fancied making them yourself, they might be able to facilitate that. They used to run lots of workshops pre-pandemic, and they rent use of studio and kiln.
Clay Studio
Clay Studio is a ceramic/pottery studio in Manchester. As well as providing a shared workspace for our members, we offer weekly courses, one-off workshops, and throwing tuition.
Or Majolica Works in town also accept commissions.
Majolica Works - Home
Manchester based Majolica Works, run by Wendy Jones, creates unique hand decorated ceramicswww.majolicaworks.co.uk
How far have you got with parquet floor? Have you had any quotes yet? I'm wondering whether to get my sitting room done, or whether to get it carpeted again. If you've found a good supplier/fitter, I'd appreciate it if you'd please let me know who they are and give me contact details.
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For parquet we've had a quote from and plan to use I J Casey | Parquet Flooring Specialists | floor sanding manchester, floor stripping manchester, parquet flooring manchester, hardwood floors manchester, floor renovations manchester but obviously we haven't actually done it yet. About £1800 for a medium sized bedroom.
If your floorboards are mostly good you could just sand and refinish, we got someone to do that to our lounge when we moved in. Natural Flooring Manchester I think but I'd have to look it up.
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mauvais
on reddit or something
Yes, our plasterer/decorator recommended it and we've used it in at least two rooms, lounge and bathroom. We got them to colour match Farrow and Ball. It's been absolutely fine.
moose
like some cat from Japan
Dulux has gone really crap lately, so it can't be worse than that. The latest lot we bought took many coats to cover something of a similar shade. Terrible reviews, too, so it's not just me!
Boudicca
Seaside Queen
Yes, Dulux isn't what it used to be.
My first port of call is now Wilko, their (oil based) satinwood is really good and nearly half the price of Dulux.
