Ship porn

[Crispy]

If a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier is a key piece of your defense strategy, you should have two of them surely. What do they do if the CdG is in the yard and France needs to defend itself?
This is the rationale for the royal navy having two new carriers, right?

 

[spitfire]

If a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier is a key piece of your defense strategy, you should have two of them surely. What do they do if the CdG is in the yard and France needs to defend itself?
This is the rationale for the royal navy having two new carriers, right?

 

[spitfire]

Serious answer, no idea, just had a quick google and apparently it had a full on mid life refit in 2018 (18 month duration). So maybe they're just giving it a new lick of paint? It's covered in scaffolding.

French Navy Aircraft Carrier Charles de Gaulle in Dry Dock for Mid-Life Refit & Upgrade

French Navy Aircraft Carrier Charles de Gaulle in Dry Dock for Mid-Life Refit & Upgrade

www.navyrecognition.com

 

[spitfire]

Further googling establishes they wanted to have 2 but never got round to it.

paf. * shrugs shoulders gallicly *

 

[spitfire]

They used to build the models at the same time as the actual ships and use them for training. I could easily stand on the deck of one of those if the ropes weren't in the way.

Neptune says Hi.

Anyway they do have 2, just one of them is very small.

 

[A380]

If a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier is a key piece of your defense strategy, you should have two of them surely. What do they do if the CdG is in the yard and France needs to defend itself?
This is the rationale for the royal navy having two new carriers, right?

They will use the Prince of Wales. Unless there is a significant uplift in defence spending we will never have enough fixed wing to operate both at the same time.

We ended up with POW because it was cheaper to keep building it than cancel the contract.

I think the four main uses of POW are:

Back up in case something happens to the Queen Elizabeth.

Helicopter carrier alongside the QE mostly fixed wing if we ended up in a near peer war.

Joint operation with the French, RN crew with a French ( badged as European/ NATO) fixed wing and/or helicopter force.

Fucking amazing venue for FCDO cocktail parties when Big Lizzie not available…

 

[A380]

…
Anyway they do have 2, just one of them is very small.

Or far away.

 

[spitfire]

Or far away.

I was pretty close tbf.

 

[pseudonarcissus]

They will use the Prince of Wales. Unless there is a significant uplift in defence spending we will never have enough fixed wing to operate both at the same time.

We ended up with POW because it was cheaper to keep building it than cancel the contract.

I think the four main uses of POW are:

Back up in case something happens to the Queen Elizabeth.

Helicopter carrier alongside the QE mostly fixed wing if we ended up in a near peer war.

Joint operation with the French, RN crew with a French ( badged as European/ NATO) fixed wing and/or helicopter force.

Fucking amazing venue for FCDO cocktail parties when Big Lizzie not available…

I heard they’d already started cannibalising the one that broke down. It remains to be see if PoW ever re-enters service

 

[Chz]

The French gov't at the time could only get funding authorised for the one. But they figured they'd come back in a year or two and point out that one is useless and you need two.
That didn't work. I like CdG, she's pretty. But a white elephant for sure.

 

[gosub]

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Anyway they do have 2, just one of them is very small.

Keeping it Indoors seems daft pilots are going to bump into the ceiling

 

[gosub]

They will use the Prince of Wales. Unless there is a significant uplift in defence spending we will never have enough fixed wing to operate both at the same time.

We ended up with POW because it was cheaper to keep building it than cancel the contract.

I think the four main uses of POW are:

Back up in case something happens to the Queen Elizabeth.

Helicopter carrier alongside the QE mostly fixed wing if we ended up in a near peer war.

Joint operation with the French, RN crew with a French ( badged as European/ NATO) fixed wing and/or helicopter force.

Fucking amazing venue for FCDO cocktail parties when Big Lizzie not available…

Um UK carriers can't operate EUropean manufactured carrier based aircraft

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Keeping it Indoors seems daft pilots are going to bump into the ceiling

Stops it get wet though. Have you seen the rust-steaks on some of these ships, wouldn't happen if they kept them all indoors.

 

[pogofish]

Further googling establishes they wanted to have 2 but never got round to it.

paf. * shrugs shoulders gallicly *

Aren't they due to start building another one next year? Based on the Queen Elizabeth/Prince of Wales design.

I also have a vague memory that the CDG was built with significant compatibility for US carrier-based aircraft on the expectation that French and US carriers would be operating together/dovetailing? To a less capable extent, both the Foch and Clemenceau had similar modification during their service lives.

Despite the fractious nature of the France/NATO relationship, on an operational level, France remained aligned and an active participant in the US/NATO's strategic air plans.

 

[gosub]

Stops it get wet though. Have you seen the rust-steaks on some of these ships, wouldn't happen if they kept them all indoors.

Traditional approach is to stick it in a bottle

 

[gosub]

Aren't they due to start building another one next year? Based on the Queen Elizabeth/Prince of Wales design.

I also have a vague memory that the CDG was built with significant compatibility for US carrier-based aircraft on the expectation that French and US carriers would be operating together/dovetailing? To a less capable extent, both the Foch and Clemenceau had similar modification during their service lives.

Despite the fractious nature of the France/NATO relationship, on an operational level, France remained aligned and an active participant in the US/NATO's strategic air plans.

Doubt it . The French aren't going to build a carrier they can't land french built aircraft on...was bad enough QE2 was built to be flagship of the EUropean navy with said problem

 

[A380]

Um UK carriers can't operate EUropean manufactured carrier based aircraft

Rotary is no problem now . Fixed wing yes at the moment until the French buy F35s to maintain a carrier option.

 

[spitfire]

Traditional approach is to stick it in a bottle

You're gonna need a bigger bottle.

 

[gosub]

Rotary is no problem now . Fixed wing yes at the moment until the French buy F35s to maintain a carrier option.

Lol . You'll be forecasting cold days in hell next


The EU's 6gen will be a bit of a bun fight though. I'll give you that. Hope Dassault wins out.

 

[platinumsage]

Aircraft carriers in typhoons:

 

[steveo87]

If a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier is a key piece of your defense strategy, you should have two of them surely. What do they do if the CdG is in the yard and France needs to defend itself?
This is the rationale for the royal navy having two new carriers, right?

It's easier to surrender with one.

(Sorry)

 

[pseudonarcissus]

On my way home after a survey

 

[bcuster]

 

[High Voltage]

Mrs Voltz (an honorary Lieutenant Commander in Her Majesty's "Civil Service") did "stuff" on that boat - usual "if she'd told me what she'd have to kill me". Only one ranking below James Bond BTW... I've said to much

And I worked IN Ledbury for far too long

Strange, but true

 

[pseudonarcissus]

It’s navy day here in copacabana

 

[bcuster]

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It’s navy day here in copacabana

Is that Rota, Spain?

 

[pseudonarcissus]

Is that Rota, Spain?

Copacabana, Brasil

 

[A380]

A sunny day for exercising for the the local AWLB.

 

[spitfire]

I love lifeboats but she has a sad face.

Maybe a little concerned rather than sad but definitely a bit down hearted.

 

[A380]

I love lifeboats but she has a sad face.

Maybe a little concerned rather than sad but definitely a bit down hearted.