Ship porn

[StoneRoad]

Film of a nineteenth century ship of the line, HMS StVincent, taking in sail in 1906 just before going to the breakers.

but also BOO at her being broken up ...

I had a visit to the Trincomalee a few years before covid [and HMS Warrior too, when she was in Hartlepool being worked on some decades ago].

 

[A380]

but also BOO at her being broken up ...

I had a visit to the Trincomalee a few years before covid [and HMS Warrior too, when she was in Hartlepool being worked on some decades ago].

Trincomalee means Hartlepool is in my top three new places to go in the UK this summer.

 

[Chilli.s]

Trincomalee means Hartlepool is in my top three new places to go in the UK this summer.

Me too

 

[T & P]

Question for those in the know? Why does it matter so much (or seems to) the country a given ship is registered in?

I guess it might have to do with lower corporation taxes in some countries. But is it just down to that? It seems weird how so many ships, including some owned by major corporations not necessarily associated with the country in question, sail their ships under Panama’s flag, Hong Kong’s or some other.

 

[pseudonarcissus]

Question for those in the know? Why does it matter so much (or seems to) the country a given ship is registered in?

I guess it might have to do with lower corporation taxes in some countries. But is it just down to that? It seems weird how so many ships, including some owned by major corporations not necessarily associated with the country in question, sail their ships under Panama’s flag, Hong Kong’s or some other.

there are 3 issues that need to be separated.

• The tax regime, so registering a ship in a tax efficient offshore location means it is not going to attract much tax.
• There are the national regulations, such as requirements on the domicile of the owners, the nationality of the crew, etc.
• Then there is the quality of the fleet. The so called "flags of convenience" in the popular imagination, like Liberia, Panama, Marshall Islands are actually not bad.

There are Port State control mechanisms, and they produce white, grey and black lists. The current Paris MOU black list (ie based on statistics of ships inspected by the ports of Europe) are:

Black List

1. 63 Sierra Leone
2. 64 Tanzania, United Republic of
3. 65 Belize
4. 66 Moldova, Republic of
5. 67 Comoros
6. 68 Togo
7. 69 Cameroon
8. Albania

Grey list:

1. 40 Estonia
2. 41 Saudi Arabia
3. 42 Korea, Republic of
4. 43 India
5. 44 Philippines
6. 45 Kazakhstan
7. 46 Poland
8. 47 Curacao
9. 48 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
10. 49 Azerbaijan
11. 50 Iran, Islamic Republic of
12. 51 Vanuatu
13. 52 Saint Kitts and Nevis
14. 53 Algeria
15. 54 Lebanon
16. 55 Mongolia
17. 56 Egypt
18. 57 Switzerland
19. 58 Cook Islands
20. 59 Tunisia
21. 60 Palau
22. 61 Ukraine

I suspect these lists tend to mean port state inspection concentrate on these flags, and poor tonnage of the more respectable flags avoid detection.

(in there interests of full disclosure, I undertake Flag Sate inspections for an administration in a tax efficient location, that appears on the white list)

 

[T & P]

there are 3 issues that need to be separated.

• The tax regime, so registering a ship in a tax efficient offshore location means it is not going to attract much tax.
• There are the national regulations, such as requirements on the domicile of the owners, the nationality of the crew, etc.
• Then there is the quality of the fleet. The so called "flags of convenience" in the popular imagination, like Liberia, Panama, Marshall Islands are actually not bad.

There are Port State control mechanisms, and they produce white, grey and black lists. The current Paris MOU black list (ie based on statistics of ships inspected by the ports of Europe) are:

Black List

1. 63 Sierra Leone
2. 64 Tanzania, United Republic of
3. 65 Belize
4. 66 Moldova, Republic of
5. 67 Comoros
6. 68 Togo
7. 69 Cameroon
8. Albania

Grey list:

1. 40 Estonia
2. 41 Saudi Arabia
3. 42 Korea, Republic of
4. 43 India
5. 44 Philippines
6. 45 Kazakhstan
7. 46 Poland
8. 47 Curacao
9. 48 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
10. 49 Azerbaijan
11. 50 Iran, Islamic Republic of
12. 51 Vanuatu
13. 52 Saint Kitts and Nevis
14. 53 Algeria
15. 54 Lebanon
16. 55 Mongolia
17. 56 Egypt
18. 57 Switzerland
19. 58 Cook Islands
20. 59 Tunisia
21. 60 Palau
22. 61 Ukraine

I suspect these lists tend to mean port state inspection concentrate on these flags, and poor tonnage of the more respectable flags avoid detection.

(in there interests of full disclosure, I undertake Flag Sate inspections for an administration in a tax efficient location, that appears on the white list)

Cheers for that, very interesting

 

[bcuster]

Film of a nineteenth century ship of the line, HMS StVincent, taking in sail in 1906 just before going to the breakers.

She was almost 100 years old when this film was made. Beautiful

 

[HAL9000]

Electric Hydrofoil boat



Its not a new idea, curious to see if this will be a success. Being electric powered, the batteries I assume are inside the hull, so its going to be top heavy.

World's first commercially available 'flying' hydrofoil boat launched by Belfast-based business

I found some pros and cons on this site..

Hydrofoils are Back! Let's Weigh the Pros and Cons

Some of the disavantages..

2. A strong power source is required, meaning more expensive engines.​

Can high torque electric motors meet this requirement, if so, perhaps the boat just needs a system similar to an electric car in terms of motor and battery size?

1. Driving a hydrofoil boat requires more skill than a standard runabout.​

​

7. Should the foil lift out of the water over a wave, expect a hard water landing.​

I wonder if some of these points can be minimise with software? How well would the boat work in the north sea servicing wind farms?

 

[bcuster]

Electric Hydrofoil boat

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Its not a new idea, curious to see if this will be a success. Being electric powered, the batteries I assume are inside the hull, so its going to be top heavy.

World's first commercially available 'flying' hydrofoil boat launched by Belfast-based business

I found some pros and cons on this site..

Hydrofoils are Back! Let's Weigh the Pros and Cons

Some of the disavantages..

2. A strong power source is required, meaning more expensive engines.​

Can high torque electric motors meet this requirement, if so, perhaps the boat just needs a system similar to an electric car in terms of motor and battery size?

1. Driving a hydrofoil boat requires more skill than a standard runabout.​

​

7. Should the foil lift out of the water over a wave, expect a hard water landing.​

I wonder if some of these points can be minimise with software? How well would the boat work in the north sea servicing wind farms?

FOR SALE: The Navy's First Operational Hydrofoil - USNI News

For the cost of a new, decently loaded Chevy Tahoe Premier, one can purchase the Navy's first operational hydrofoil, the former USS High Point (PCH-1).

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[bcuster]

The ships (USN hydrofoils) were retired because they were not judged cost effective for their mission in a Navy with primarily offensive missions rather than coastal patrol. USS Aries PHM-5 Hydrofoil Memorial, Inc. obtained Aries for rehabilitation as a memorial located on the Grand River in Brunswick, Missouri at 39°25′15″N 93°7′47″W. All other PHMs in the class have been scrapped except for Gemini which was converted into a yacht.

Pegasus-class hydrofoil

The Pegasus-class hydrofoils were a series of fast attack patrol boats employed by the U.S. Navy. They were in service from 1977 through 1993. These hydrofoils carried the designation "PHM" for "Patrol, Hydrofoil, Missile." The Pegasus class vessels were originally intended for NATO operations...

military-history.fandom.com

 

[weltweit]

I went on a hydrofoil in Sydney harbour back 37 years ago..

 

[HAL9000]

The ships (USN hydrofoils) were retired because they were not judged cost effective for their mission in a Navy with primarily offensive missions rather than coastal patrol. USS Aries PHM-5 Hydrofoil Memorial, Inc. obtained Aries for rehabilitation as a memorial located on the Grand River in Brunswick, Missouri at 39°25′15″N 93°7′47″W. All other PHMs in the class have been scrapped except for Gemini which was converted into a yacht.

Pegasus-class hydrofoil

The Pegasus-class hydrofoils were a series of fast attack patrol boats employed by the U.S. Navy. They were in service from 1977 through 1993. These hydrofoils carried the designation "PHM" for "Patrol, Hydrofoil, Missile." The Pegasus class vessels were originally intended for NATO operations...

military-history.fandom.com

With electric power, have to see if this new generation of hyrofoils is cost effective.

One of the boats used to ferry crew out to wind farms

Dalby Aire | Dalby Offshore

Dalby Aire is a 22m DNV Class WFSV.

www.dalbyoffshore.com

its has a speed of 22 knots and is diesel powered.

 

[Chilli.s]

Years ago there used to be a hydrofoil service to Isle of Wight from Southampton as well as hovercraft and ferry. I was never sick on it but plenty were.

 

[StoneRoad]

With electric power, have to see if this new generation of hyrofoils is cost effective.

One of the boats used to ferry crew out to wind farms

Dalby Aire | Dalby Offshore

Dalby Aire is a 22m DNV Class WFSV.

www.dalbyoffshore.com

its has a speed of 22 knots and is diesel powered.

This pointy beast is intended for off-shore windfarms, and other tasks ... answers to "Tenacity" and is designed to do 50knots !

ipernity: StoneRoad2013's photos with the keyword: Tenacity

The worlds largest non-commercial photo, video and blog sharing community - financed only by membership dues, without any intention of making a profit.

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[bcuster]

I had a friend who was assigned to one of the "Pegasus" class hydrofoils. He thought it was a plum assignment. Little did he know that the Pegasus class & hydrofoils, in general, were on the chopping block.

I'd heard that the Navy tried to transfer the hydrofoils to the Coast Guard, but the USCG didn't want them, either...

 

[HAL9000]

This pointy beast is intended for off-shore windfarms, and other tasks ... answers to "Tenacity" and is designed to do 50knots !

ipernity: StoneRoad2013's photos with the keyword: Tenacity

The worlds largest non-commercial photo, video and blog sharing community - financed only by membership dues, without any intention of making a profit.

www.ipernity.com

I can see for hydrofoil boat it might be possible to do 34 knots because its above the waves. But..

50 knots

I would have thought the waves might make that a tad uncomfortable. It has some sort of catamaran type hull

About | WaveAccess

Coastal Charters Wave Access Rapid Crew Transfer Vessel project website

www.waveaccess.co.uk

 

[StoneRoad]

I can see for hydrofoil boat it might be possible to do 34k knots because its above the waves. But..

50 knots

I would have thought the waves might make that a tad uncomfortable. It has some sort of catamaran type hull

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About | WaveAccess

Coastal Charters Wave Access Rapid Crew Transfer Vessel project website

www.waveaccess.co.uk

It did Whitehaven to North Wales in 3.25 hours ...

Has a "stabiliser" fitted [when that's not working she can roll a tad] & the single hull is narrow so it does "wave piercing".

 

[David Clapson]

If you want 50 kts, or even 60, you need 3 x Proteus turbines Name Brave Challenger | National Historic Ships The tub in question has had a lot of work done recently, and is said to be moored at Ocean Village. ISTR a bit of a rumpus about 20 yrs ago when her neighbours in the marina were worried about being melted.

 

[A380]

There used to be a hydrofoil service from London (St Catherine’s Dock) to Ostend. It didn’t last. Maybe it could be done with this new generation?

London-To-Belgium Jetfoil Service Set

P and O Ferries of London, England, has announced that it will introduce the first Boeing Jetfoil hydrofoil boat service in Europe on June 1. The

magazines.marinelink.com

 

[spitfire]

Derp.

 

[StoneRoad]

opppps!

{and, pray, what's she done with her mizzenmast ?}

 

[T & P]

HMS Surprise, Motherfuckers.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Decent crunching sound there

 

[DownwardDog]

Trincomalee means Hartlepool is in my top three new places to go in the UK this summer.

It's conveniently located near a Burger King that smells like Buchenwald and an Asda where the staff are shocked if you aren't shoplifting.

 

[A380]

It's conveniently located near a Burger King that smells like Buchenwald and an Asda where the staff are shocked if you aren't shoplifting.

Did Hangus die in vain?

 

[dessiato]

It's conveniently located near a Burger King that smells like Buchenwald and an Asda where the staff are shocked if you aren't shoplifting.

As someone whose family were Jewish refugees that’s quite a dreadful comparison.

 

[souljacker]

If you want 50 kts, or even 60, you need 3 x Proteus turbines Name Brave Challenger | National Historic Ships The tub in question has had a lot of work done recently, and is said to be moored at Ocean Village. ISTR a bit of a rumpus about 20 yrs ago when her neighbours in the marina were worried about being melted.

Oh yeah, that's sat right next to the yacht I posted a pic of a couple of months ago: Ship porn

 

[dessiato]

Two quickly grabbed pics, not very good quality I'm afraid. They were sailing up the river, no idea where to. They'd come into the estuary and were just sailing along in the sun.

 

[bcuster]

fraught with problems, but still an impressive profile:

 

[bcuster]

Finally; some sanity, clarity & consistency in naming future US Navy ships:

Report to Congress on U.S. Navy Ship Names - USNI News

The following is the June 13, 2022, Congressional Research Service report, Navy Ship Names: Background for Congress. Names for Navy ships traditionally have been chosen and announced by the Secretary of the Navy, under the direction of the President and in accordance with rules prescribed by...

news.usni.org