Sense8 - Netflix original by The Matrix & Babylon 5 creators

[8den]

Dark confession time I did buy it on cassette in the 90s as a single, but what are odds of a Icelandic House DJ having it on her Ipod in 2015?

 

[adidaswoody]

Dark confession time I did buy it on cassette in the 90s as a single, but what are odds of a Icelandic House DJ having it on her Ipod in 2015?

It's on my phone without about 17 other random songs that don't fit in with the other 2000 house and drum and bass songs!

 

[Chuff]

Dark confession time I did buy it on cassette in the 90s as a single, but what are odds of a Icelandic House DJ having it on her Ipod in 2015?

she obviously caught the he-man meme and got hooked

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Is the music actually sigur ros I thought they never licences there stuff for TV or ads. Any time you think you hear sigur ros on tv its a cheap knock off

Speaking of music, I loved Mogwai's contribution to Les Revenants, shame they weren't roped in to score The Returned as well.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Also, visually, this is stunning. The best cinematography in a TV show since Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. More evocative of the latter, with an emphasis on primary colours, probably filtered through some kind of Instagramd post edit. Really really impressive.

Have you seen Channel 4's Utopia? Fab cinematography, especially some of the external, landscape shots, and also the colourist did a fantastic job.

Also, the Welsh series Hinterland had some brilliant cinematography.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Watched a few episodes of Orphan Black and thought it was terrible...so far three episodes into S8 and it's about as good as its name...

Orphan Black's brilliant. The acting by Tatiana Maslany is quite simply phenomenal, it's so superlative that it's possible to forget that it's the same actress playing so many characters. I remember during one episode, seeing the credits and thinking, Oh, they showed the name of the actor who plays Donny, but what about Alison... and then I remembered that they'd shown Tatiana Maslany's name at the beginning, and I'd associated the name with the Sarah Manning character. Alison and Felix are a very funny double act.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

Season 2 looking likely

http://www.vcpost.com/articles/7945...-2-renewal-netflix-announcement-this-week.htm

Apparently already scripted, and a 5 season arc mapped out. I never watched babylon5, but apparently that also had a "proper" planned arc over its many seasons, something which I think delivers a more satisfying viewing experience than shows which have an amazing idea which the scriptwriters muddle through without knowing exactly where they are going. See Lost, for a perfect example. Here's Peter Watts ranting about this very issue...

http://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=1331

 

[SpookyFrank]

Yeah I'm glad to hear they've got proper story arcs planned out already. Hopefully more shows will start taking this approach, or use the standalone story model like Fargo, True Detective and American Horror Story.

Hopefully with the online streaming model shows will have more of a chance to attract fans over time and decisions about what gets cancelled or renewed won't be made on the back of opening night ratings. Sense 8 strikes me as the sort of thing that could build up a real cult following.

 

[DotCommunist]

second season confirmed, bonus.

 

[adidaswoody]

Yarp very excited!

 

[DotCommunist]

when you look at jupiter ascending in comparison to this its not hard to be glad that the watwhatsit sibs are going to be doing a series rather than another rubbish but visually pleasing film. JA suffered from a lot of ideas overload. You could tell a good story in that mythos over three books. Space Opera tends to suffer very very badly when its shoehorned into film length. There is just too much to tell. Reminds me of how badly Chronicles of Riddick failed.

 

[joustmaster]

I really enjoyed that. I can't wait for the next series.

Tuppence is a ridiculous name.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

I'm starting to like this a bit now....after struggling to get through ep 1 I have watched 3 and looking forward to seeing where it goes.

 

[mrscooker]

Thanks for the recommendation, just binge watched and loved it.

 

[spanglechick]

I saw the matrix/Babylon 5 pedigree and it put me right off... Then watched it out of boredom. Loved it.

It is a bit like heroes, but without the stupids. And a little soapy in places... But it's remarkable TV. The birth montage has rightly been given lots of attention, but the orgy? Bloody amazing. Just beautiful and erotic, like a renaissance sculpture come to life and feeling horny.

Can I also say what a fantastically, meaningfully feminist piece it is. Not Sun's kickboxing (which is a bit primary school "girl power") but the little things. There are two tampon scenes. Two. Since watching it I've realised how hidden and bizarrely ignored menstruation is in TV and film. And how odd and misogynistic that is. Anyway that. And the extent to which male nudity balances out (over balances?) female nudity.

 

[adidaswoody]

I saw the matrix/Babylon 5 pedigree and it put me right off... Then watched it out of boredom. Loved it.

It is a bit like heroes, but without the stupids. And a little soapy in places... But it's remarkable TV. The birth montage has rightly been given lots of attention, but the orgy? Bloody amazing. Just beautiful and erotic, like a renaissance sculpture come to life and feeling horny.

Can I also say what a fantastically, meaningfully feminist piece it is. Not Sun's kickboxing (which is a bit primary school "girl power") but the little things. There are two tampon scenes. Two. Since watching it I've realised how hidden and bizarrely ignored menstruation is in TV and film. And how odd and misogynistic that is. Anyway that. And the extent to which male nudity balances out (over balances?) female nudity.

Disliked the orgy, I already knew the strength of their bonds when they all sang together, that orgy I didn't wanna see and before that episode I'd already recommended it to lots of people, they watched it with their family, then they were all shouting at me for not mentioning a gay orgy

 

[spanglechick]

Disliked the orgy, I already knew the strength of their bonds when they all sang together, that orgy I didn't wanna see and before that episode I'd already recommended it to lots of people, they watched it with their family, then they were all shouting at me for not mentioning a gay orgy

It started with gay strapon sex. Episode one, scene one. How was the orgy a surprise? or is male gay sex less acceptable than female gay sex?

 

[adidaswoody]

It started with gay strapon sex. Episode one, scene one. How was the orgy a surprise? or is male gay sex less acceptable than female gay sex?

I only found this out after I recommended it to people too!!!
When I First clicked on sense8 on my Netflix it started me about 11 minutes into the first episode iirc, and I didn't notice, thought the start was odd but I was tired and didnt question it. someone else who uses my Netflix mustve watched the first bit and thought nah and turned it off!
It was only watching it the second time around I was like WHAT I don't remember this
When people were mentioning it to me, I was that guy that pretends he knows what their talking about, nodding along like the Churchill dog just thinking, what strap on scene xD they must be on about something else lol

 

[Mrs Miggins]

I'm with you spanglechick - I thought the orgy scene was really beautifully done. And you are bang on about menstruation. It's never mentioned in anything. Except perhaps if a woman is being grumpy/psychotic.

 

[8den]

Have you seen Channel 4's Utopia? Fab cinematography, especially some of the external, landscape shots, and also the colourist did a fantastic job.

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American version directed by David Fincher has fallen through

 

[8den]

On an aside JMSs strength has always been developing strong character arcs while the Warkoskis have been excellent at strong visuals combined with quasi mysticism.

The transgender character is very strong probably drawn from the experience of Lana Warkoskis gender realignment. Weakest plot for me was the St Petersberg India star crossed lovers (although I hated the break in on San Fransciso the comedy tone was too forced) I enjoyed the orgy and the Chicago cop car chase. Very inventive and imaginative TV

All in all its the best work both parties have done in over a decade and will watch the 2nd series with interest.

 

[wayward bob]

van damn and the mexicans were my favourite storylines.

there's a short making-of doc up on netflix now, reminded me just how much fun it was, looking forward to another season

 

[DotCommunist]

American version directed by David Fincher has fallen through

I can't say I'm that dissapointed, I'd rather a new series of the brit version

and agreed bob, Van Damn was great.

 

[DotCommunist]

I saw the matrix/Babylon 5 pedigree

the best things I've seen from the wakowski's have been written by other people- Sense8 and the film Cloud Atlas. In some ways cloud atlas has a similar visual thing going on with the quick cuts between place (and in CA case, time)

 

[Reno]

the best things I've seen from the wakowski's have been written by other people- Sense8 and the film Cloud Atlas. In some ways cloud atlas has a similar visual thing going on with the quick cuts between place (and in CA case, time)

I still think their best film by far was their first, the lesbian neo-noir Bound and that was written by them. None of that messianic crap in that one.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

I still think their best film by far was their first, the lesbian neo-noir Bound and that was written by them. None of that messianic crap in that one.

Well I never. I didn't know that was them. I love that film.

 

[DotCommunist]

Well I never. I didn't know that was them. I love that film.

me niether, it has none of the visual flamboyance of matrix/sense8/jupiter ascending that I associate with the siblings.

and was proper steamy.

 

[Reno]

me niether, it has none of the visual flamboyance of matrix/sense8/jupiter ascending that I associate with the siblings.

and was proper steamy.

There is some show-off camera work in it, but Bound being a first film, it was done on a very low budget and mostly takes place in one apartment. In terms of style its a little like early Coen Brothers or Sam Raimi in non-horror mode

 

[8den]

I can't say I'm that dissapointed, I'd rather a new series of the brit version

and agreed bob, Van Damn was great.

I'm note sure Fincher doing a U.S. utopia with a larger budget and bigger scale could have been fascinating. Other interesting but unlikely to happen adaptions is Arinosky (sic) is in talks with HBO to adapt Atwoods Mad Addam trilogy which could be incredible.

I hated Cloud Atlas, the stunt casting was just too distracting and the jumping back and forth in time made the plot and themes confusing. I'd highly recommend the book

 

[DotCommunist]

I'd highly recommend the book

I have read Bone Clocks by the same author and was mighty impressed, been meaning to ge round to cloud atlas