Scots indy results thread
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marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
breaking news on BBC News atm -
Where's that reported? I can't see anything.
FabricLiveBaby!
Live Baby Fabric!
Wait? The Westminster elite have back-pedalled from their vows? WHODATHUNKIT?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I'm comparing him to Nick Clegg and his two-faced neo-liberal role. The again bit was to do with the last time he played this hand in order get members to beg him to come back,thus strengthening his hand and cutting off potential challengers without a formal challenge or long drawn out internal fight.
Salmond's resigned
His disappointment will be a heavy burden on him at the moment.
He should be proud of the fact he raised a party that was only seen as a one agenda party into a force that has shaken the very foundations of Westminster.
I always have time for those who cause a ruckus.
Those who quaked at the polling booth and erred for the known instead of a chance to see what could have been possible, good or bad, will lay in their beds tonight and wonder if they have let slip a new beginning.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
Then please don't.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Guardian reporting this from Salmond's news conference:
Suspect this will now shift to manifesto commitments to extra powers, rather than immediate commitments. I haven't scrutnised the wording of what Brown has said on all this, butit suggests either he or Cameron is a liar.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Fuck me, that's patronising.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I think i will ta. His party and he personally are neo-liberals. They pose as being social-democratic or left. They're not. They are the people who would bring neo-liberalism under the guise of social justice.
Theisticle
Well-Known Member
LMAO, what a baby: Salmond bans Mail, Telegraph & Express from resignation presser - Guardian also not present - live blog
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The guardian were only allowed a journo the SNP decided was ok to them.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
he was way younger then, he's 61 now? can't see him riding to the rescue another time
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
clegg in breaking pledge shocker!
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Only 59 - a new GE in less than a year. All this stuff centred on him (at least from the party and electoral formal side) . Nah, i can't see a walk away.
Theisticle
Well-Known Member
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
It's turned out just about as well as it could for Cameron - significant victoy margin, big enough to avoid calls for a run off in the next decade. His political difficulty is matching the vague commitments he gave on devo with the blusterings of his back benchers, but he'll probably manage that by leaving it till the manifesto. If he can do that he'll also avoid all the excited chatter about 'no going back' for the UK constitution, English parliaments etc. In reality, it's probably miliband who will have to do the real juggling after May 2015, particularly if he's reliant on the SNP at Westminster.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
Had it been a yes vote, the SNP would have been weakened as a party at the first Scottish Election as their main pulling power would have disappeared - so votes may have gone back to Scottish Labour, so his time at the top would have been limited anyway - I can see why he resigned - didn't get the glittering prize
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The day after, with negotiations for further devolution to deal with?
Not very statesmanlike.
But honourable.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I think they would have got an independence electoral bonus. The tories have also melted into that party, but they have gone native. Lots of people saying (and i don't agree) that the NO vote spells big trouble for labour. So this ex-tory/ex-labour coaliton might strengthen the SNP.
Tankus
Amused OAP
Blimey....what a roller coaster .......I feel quite optimistic over what salmond has initiated ....Its no longer all about the Scot's
Looking at the Glasgow result possibly the SNP vote will be strengthened at the expense of ex heritary labour voters
Maybe Brown might seize an opportunity and separate Scottish labour from the English manbag metrosexual centro London labour set and spray himself in woad..... Solves the west lothian and he's back to being the big man in a small house , going it alone
Maybe call it Old school labour
Looking at the Glasgow result possibly the SNP vote will be strengthened at the expense of ex heritary labour voters
Maybe Brown might seize an opportunity and separate Scottish labour from the English manbag metrosexual centro London labour set and spray himself in woad..... Solves the west lothian and he's back to being the big man in a small house , going it alone
Maybe call it Old school labour
Or as Boris put it, ' they had to get Gordon Brown out of the deep freeze to make up for the invertebrate Milliband'!
newbie
undisambiguated
I don't think so. We're less than 9 months off an election, and there's now a head of steam building as all sorts of people spot the possibility for constitutional realignment. Cameron has promised change since the result, all the party leaders promised something before it.
We'll see but it looks to me like 9 months of constitutional arguments. What will come of that will depend on balance of forces, of course.
Unbelievable, I suspect civil disobedience will raise its head if they renege.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Fuck him the neoliberal prick, the idea that he isn't part of the establishment is ludicrous.
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