Salmond, Alba, and Direct Action

[Border Reiver]

Alba as a new party is more willing than the SNP to consider direct action for Scottish Independence.

Is civil disobedience justified if Westminster denies a second referendum?

 

[Flavour]

Civil disobedience is always justified. What sort of direct action is Alba proposing?

 

[Border Reiver]

Civil disobedience is always justified. What sort of direct action is Alba proposing?

Do you support civil disobedience by causes that you find seriously objectionable?

 

[Serge Forward]

Do you support civil disobedience by causes that you find seriously objectionable?

Why in earth would anyone support someone or something they... er... don't support???

 

[Sue]

The Scotland forum is where Alba and all that are being discussed.

 

[Border Reiver]

Why in earth would anyone support someone or something they... er... don't support???

Support the right to...

 

[Serge Forward]

It's not about "rights" it's about what's right.

 

[Pickman's model]

Do you support civil disobedience by causes that you find seriously objectionable?

I suppose you do

 

[danny la rouge]

Alba as a new party is more willing than the SNP to consider direct action for Scottish Independence.

Is civil disobedience justified if Westminster denies a second referendum?

Hello new member. What direct action do you mean? I’ve not heard these suggestions.

Bearing in mind that the term “direct action” has particular meaning for anarchists, are you sure you mean that?

As far as I was aware, their proposal was to omit the referendum and have the parliamentary majority negotiate for independence. I don’t count that as “direct action” (with it being done by so called “representatives”).

 

[Flavour]

Ah ok no worries

 

[Border Reiver]

Hello new member. What direct action do you mean? I’ve not heard these suggestions.

Bearing in mind that the term “direct action” has particular meaning for anarchists, are you sure you mean that?

As far as I was aware, their proposal was to omit the referendum and have the parliamentary majority negotiate for independence. I don’t count that as “direct action” (with it being done by so called “representatives”).

At the launch of Alba he was asked if a referendum was the only way and he replied that civil disobedience (undefined) might be necessary to get Westminster to engage.

 

[Border Reiver]

It's not about "rights" it's about what's right.

In your opinion. Other opinions are available.

 

[Border Reiver]

Hello new member. What direct action do you mean? I’ve not heard these suggestions.

Bearing in mind that the term “direct action” has particular meaning for anarchists, are you sure you mean that?

As far as I was aware, their proposal was to omit the referendum and have the parliamentary majority negotiate for independence. I don’t count that as “direct action” (with it being done by so called “representatives”).

That is SNP policy. Alba seems more open to civil disobedience.

 

[danny la rouge]

That is SNP policy. Alba seems more open to civil disobedience.

No it isn’t. SNP policy is to hold another referendum.

 

[Serge Forward]

In your opinion. Other opinions are available.

That's just... like... your opinion, man.

 

[danny la rouge]

At the launch of Alba he was asked if a referendum was the only way and he replied that civil disobedience (undefined) might be necessary to get Westminster to engage.

Salmond? I didn’t watch the whole launch and haven’t seen that section reported. I take your word for it, though.

 

[killer b]

I think most of the posters on the politics board here are supportive of direct action up to and including violent revolution tbh

 

[danny la rouge]

That's just... like... your opinion, man.

Oh god, don’t start them. They’ll quote the whole film!

 

[killer b]

although maybe not with that dick leading the charge.

 

[Border Reiver]

That's just... like... your opinion, man.

No it is a fact. Proved by me disagreeing.

 

[Serge Forward]

Oh god, don’t start them. They’ll quote the whole film!

This aggression will not stand, man.

 

[Border Reiver]

No it isn’t. SNP policy is to hold another referendum.

Which is what I meant. SNP support a referendum preferably on a section 30. Alba would consider civil disobedience.

 

[Serge Forward]

No it is a fact. Proved by me disagreeing.

I think you need to type FACT in capitals. Them's the rules.

 

[danny la rouge]

This aggression will not stand, man.

Something about a carpet.

 

[danny la rouge]

Which is what I meant. SNP support a referendum preferably on a section 30. Alba would consider civil disobedience.

So you said. Cheers.

 

[Serge Forward]

He pissed on my fucking rug, man.

 

[killer b]

Something about a carpet.

it's like gen x monty python. intollerable.

 

[Serge Forward]

Gutters and strikes... okay I'll stop now

 

[andysays]

Say what you like about the tenets of Scottish Nationalism dude, at least it's an ethos.

 

[danny la rouge]

it's like gen x monty python. intollerable.

Serge Gen X. <sniggers>