S********T : what is it like?

[andysays]

That one's for you and Greebo to sort out between yourselves (though it is a bit sneaky, to say the least, attributing it to her and even directing people to the forum she posts on)...

Actually, I'm not sure that it is. I think it's an issue for each and every one of us that there's someone here who is stupid/arrogant/whatever enough to take a quote from here and post it with the name of the site and the name of the poster on another website which, even if it isn't exclusive populated by fash sympathisers, is certainly one which many are likely to read.

 

[butchersapron]

Sure, but so what?

The only one of those I've had anything to do with is American Renaissance, when I got into a brief conversation with Jared Taylor (the fonder of AmRen) and invited him to our website (MootStormfront). I do not in fact post in any of those subforums (or similar ones, AFAIK) and never have.

People MP actively seeks out to have on his own forums #1: Jared Taylor.

"Blacks and whites are different. When blacks are left entirely to their own devices, Western civilization — any kind of civilization — disappears."
— American Renaissance, 2005

"Our rulers and media executives will try to turn the story of Hurricane Katrina into yet another morality tale of downtrodden blacks and heartless whites... . [But m]any whites will realize — some for the first time — that we have Africa in our midst, that utterly alien Africa of road-side corpses, cruelty, and anarchy that they thought could never wash up on our shores."
— American Renaissance, 2005

"At its most basic, racial consciousness has as its goal the preservation of a certain people. Its aim is to rekindle among whites what every previous generation until recently so took for granted they did not even give it a name: an instinctive preference for their own people and culture, and a strong desire that they should prosper. I note that every other racial group acts on this healthy instinct and desire. Race realism therefore has no theory of religion, the family, art, or the role of government, except in the very general sense that it expects whites to love, first and foremost, the infinite riches created by European man."

 

[DotCommunist]

I

Sure, but so what?

The only one of those I've had anything to do with is American Renaissance, when I got into a brief conversation with Jared Taylor (the fonder of AmRen) and invited him to our website (MootStormfront). I do not in fact post in any of those subforums (or similar ones, AFAIK) and never have.

you just post on the other forums of that notorious far right site.



jesus.

 

[frogwoman]

I understand where you're coming from here, FL, but I'm afraid you won't have much luck with it.

What you have to realise is that at least as far as my country (I'm British) is concerned, the people who post here are the tip of the iceberg. The British left has a "no platform for fascists" policy, which precludes most of your British opponents from coming here and engaging with you; in fact anyone who does so is regarded as deeply suspect as I've learned to my cost. And God help anyone who openly admits to having WN friends online, as I have (believe it or not).

I'm been told on a left wing British board that "nazis" (i.e. anyone who supports WN) are "vermin" who should be "neckshot". The hostility is implacable and pretty much total.

Good luck getting them to change their mind. My honest advice is just to accept it as part and parcel of the struggle you face.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Here's a tip:- When a website has a regularly updated forum called Jewology with its banner in the shape of Anne Frank with a Che Guevara hat with the star of David painted on it, with topics about how Jewish Hollywood is, with Admin that links to Pat Buchanan and American Renaissance in their signature - it's a far-right website.

Now that would be a good signature quote.

 

[andysays]

FridgeMagnet

Do you think this is an issue that should be addressed by the mods?

 

[DotCommunist]

God help anyone who openly admits to having WN friends online, as I have (believe it or not)./QUOTE]

fucking right n all

 

[JimW]

If he sticks to passing on the imminent neckshot message, maybe we could leave him to it.

 

[brogdale]

I

you just post on the other forums of that notorious far right site.



jesus.

...on a bike.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Actually, I'm not sure that it is. I think it's an issue for each and every one of us that there's someone here who is stupid/arrogant/whatever enough to take a quote from here and post it with the name of the site and the name of the poster on another website which, even if it isn't exclusive populated by fash sympathisers, is certainly one which many are likely to read.

My more immediate concern is that someone who appears to share their views is already posting on here, claiming to be an anti-racist who just wants free speech for them.

 

[Meltingpot]

I

you just post on the other forums of that notorious far right site.

jesus.

Yes I do. That's long been accepted on here as long as I didn't talk about it.

They aren't all "fash" btw, or anything like, but it's fair to say that (as was said to me) the great majority of people on that site would have supported Franco in the Spanish Civil War, whereas I'm guessing very few people if any people here would.

The dominant political ethos there is Catholic, traditionalist conservative, monarchist. What you might call the Old Right (or part of it, because a lot of the economic discussions there go to the left).

 

[Fedayn]

Yes I do. That's long been accepted on here as long as I didn't talk about it.

I take a different view of things from what you do.

You certainly do as is shown here....

Good luck getting them to change their mind. My honest advice is just to accept it as part and parcel of the struggle you face.

 

[Santino]

I wonder if any of his friends are writing a book about the struggle they face. I've got a great title they could use.

 

[butchersapron]

Yes I do. That's long been accepted on here as long as I didn't talk about it.

I take a different view of things from what you do.

Accepted by who?

 

[butchersapron]

I wonder if any of his friends are writing a book about the struggle they face. I've got a great title they could use.

Four and a Half Years of Struggle Against Lies, Stupidity Cowardice and on-line bullying.

 

[Greebo]

Actually, I'm not sure that it is. I think it's an issue for each and every one of us that there's someone here who is stupid/arrogant/whatever enough to take a quote from here and post it with the name of the site and the name of the poster on another website which, even if it isn't exclusive populated by fash sympathisers, is certainly one which many are likely to read.

FWIW I wasn't particularly concerned about being found or traced from one quote and a messageboard. As a matter of course I keep a different name, slightly different ID, and different contact details for different places. Only one email account shows my real surname, and I never use it socially.

This isn't paranoia, it was a subculture/counterculture thing at the time.

 

[DotCommunist]

Yes I do. That's long been accepted on here as long as I didn't talk about it.

I take a different view of things from what you do.

a view where you spend ten years lying down with fash and showing an entirely different face here. You're broken.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Yes I do. That's long been accepted on here as long as I didn't talk about it.

I take a different view of things from what you do.

Could you please explain your biologically determinist views on women, men and 'WN' now Meltingpot? You don't seem especially keen to discuss them for some reason.

 

[andysays]

My more immediate concern is that someone who appears to share their views is already posting on here, claiming to be an anti-racist who just wants free speech for them.

Yeah, that too, for sure.

We don't need to choose between one or the other.

Without wanting to be melodramatic, I think this arsehole needs to be fucked off right now.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Do you not see how wishing Nazis 'good luck' in getting people to change their minds about far right politics looks Meltingpot? Kind of looks like you sympathise and wish them, well, good luck.

I don't. I wish them a terminal case of piles.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

FridgeMagnet

Do you think this is an issue that should be addressed by the mods?

Depends on which issue you mean. It's already been stated that promoting the forum in question counts as promoting a far-right site and is thus banned - though I've not seen any promotion of it since that was pointed out.

 

[andysays]

FWIW I wasn't particularly concerned about being found or traced from one quote and a messageboard. As a matter of course I keep a different name, slightly different ID, and different contact details for different places. Only one email account shows my real surname, and I never use it socially.

This isn't paranoia, it was a subculture/counterculture thing at the time.

OK, that's cool, but this is not just about you - I'm sure you understand what I'm saying

 

[frogwoman]

Meltingpot can you please answer my question about the men and women and why women are less likely to be Nazis.

What do you mean "the dominant social paradigm"?

Do you mean brainwashed by jews? what is the dominant social paradigm and why does it explain why women aren't nazis?

i thought you were naive but your in way too fucking deep.

 

[DotCommunist]

Do you not see how wishing Nazis 'good luck' in getting people to change their minds about far right politics looks Meltingpot? Kind of looks like you sympathise and wish them, well, good luck.

I don't. I wish them a terminal case of piles.

and smallpox

 

[SpineyNorman]

Yes I do. That's long been accepted on here as long as I didn't talk about it.

No it hasn't.

 

[andysays]

Depends on which issue you mean. It's already been stated that promoting the forum in question counts as promoting a far-right site and is thus banned - though I've not seen any promotion of it since that was pointed out.

The specific issue I mean is taking quotes and other info which could potentially contribute to identifying someone posting here, and putting them on what we all recognise is a far-right website.

It's not about what's posted here, but about what has been taken from here and posted elsewhere.

 

[SpineyNorman]

I wonder if any of his friends are writing a book about the struggle they face. I've got a great title they could use.

My Struggle would seem apt but sounds a bit boring. Maybe something more foreign sounding?

 

[SpineyNorman]

The specific issue I mean is taking quotes and other info which could potentially contribute to identifying someone posting here, and putting them on what we all recognise is a far-right website.

It's not about what's posted here, but about what has been taken from here and posted elsewhere.

That and the sexist biological determinism and sympathy for far right causes.

 

[sihhi]

Who was GreenSocialistUK that used to post odd empty links in Opposing Ideologies w/out discussion:

http://www.storm front.org/forum/t228691

used to post stuff like this:

Im 16 and I am an anti, but I think one thing you will realise from reading the threads on here is that you will have to re-evaluate your principals. You will recognise that if you are commited to freedom you have to accept WN values and opinions are just as valid as any other.
I may not agree with what WN say but I would be willing to die making sure they can say it.

As another anti from Britain there you must have communicated with them.

 

[Meltingpot]

Depends on which issue you mean. It's already been stated that promoting the forum in question counts as promoting a far-right site and is thus banned - though I've not seen any promotion of it since that was pointed out.

I was careful not to, and to comply with your wishes.