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That does explain quite a lot, if a significant proportion of my fellow countrypeople are blasting their brains with that every morning when they get out of bed. :(
Especially when people are carsharing like families or kids who get shared taxis in lieu of schoolbuses (eg special schools) I just feel really bad for the kids soaking it up. It's even worse nowadays because we don't really have local radio the way we used to, for most people the only recognisable options are these ones we've been discussing. I always knew it was 'wrong' but the adults around me were also soaking up whatever the y2k version of the anti-woke snowflake narrative was and they carried that over into how they responded to me. I don't think I will ever own a TV in my adult life because I'm too scarred from my mom forcing me to watch things like xtra-factor for hours on end, and I'm only just now re-exploring radio
 
Especially when people are carsharing like families or kids who get shared taxis in lieu of schoolbuses (eg special schools) I just feel really bad for the kids soaking it up. It's even worse nowadays because we don't really have local radio the way we used to, for most people the only recognisable options are these ones we've been discussing. I always knew it was 'wrong' but the adults around me were also soaking up whatever the y2k version of the anti-woke snowflake narrative was and they carried that over into how they responded to me. I don't think I will ever own a TV in my adult life because I'm too scarred from my mom forcing me to watch things like xtra-factor for hours on end, and I'm only just now re-exploring radio
Never thought about that, kids being bombarded with it before school every morning, god that’s grim. My mates mum who gave me lifts to school some days had one tape and it was billy Joel and I probably still know every word of that album, you listen intently to adult stuff when you’re small, for clues about the world i suppose.
 
Especially when people are carsharing like families or kids who get shared taxis in lieu of schoolbuses (eg special schools) I just feel really bad for the kids soaking it up. It's even worse nowadays because we don't really have local radio the way we used to, for most people the only recognisable options are these ones we've been discussing. I always knew it was 'wrong' but the adults around me were also soaking up whatever the y2k version of the anti-woke snowflake narrative was and they carried that over into how they responded to me. I don't think I will ever own a TV in my adult life because I'm too scarred from my mom forcing me to watch things like xtra-factor for hours on end, and I'm only just now re-exploring radio


Steer clear of LBC at all times, but especially the morning show, hosted by racist-misogynist Nick Ferrari, a man who can't understand why everyone else didn't just do what he did to get where he is, (have parents put you in private school and then have a daddy who runs a press agency who can shoehorn you in the media, all quite simple...)
 
Great point about the toxicity of morning TV and radio. I can't listen/watch either and haven't done for years. It puts me in the shittest of moods. If I get in a cab or go somewhere where either is on I ask them to turn it down or off. I have on multiple occasions also ended up having a decent conversation with cab drivers who listen to LBC or talk radio about the damage it does. I remember one saying to me, 'Oh you're right, I never let the kids hear it, I protect them from this shit.'
 
Great point about the toxicity of morning TV and radio. I can't listen/watch either and haven't done for years. It puts me in the shittest of moods. If I get in a cab or go somewhere where either is on I ask them to turn it down or off. I have on multiple occasions also ended up having a decent conversation with cab drivers who listen to LBC or talk radio about the damage it does. I remember one saying to me, 'Oh you're right, I never let the kids hear it, I protect them from this shit.'
Yup. I’ve never watched GMB, and I even gave up on the brainless BBC Breakfast (which I only ever put on out of habit) after the infamous “owls don’t have legs” incident. Never have radio on either. Breakfast has been much calmer since I broke the habit.
 
Yup. I’ve never watched GMB, and I even gave up on the brainless BBC Breakfast (which I only ever put on out of habit) after the infamous “owls don’t have legs” incident. Never have radio on either. Breakfast has been much calmer since I broke the habit.
I've absolutely no idea what that is but that would make me more likely to watch it, not less. :confused:
 
Yup. I’ve never watched GMB, and I even gave up on the brainless BBC Breakfast (which I only ever put on out of habit) after the infamous “owls don’t have legs” incident. Never have radio on either. Breakfast has been much calmer since I broke the habit.
Have never watched am TV and, like you, find my mornings calmer with music only radio.
Thinking about it the TV only ever goes on after 7 or 8 in the evening (live sports excepted)...don't know whether that makes me middle class or just olderly :D
 
I really enjoyed this article, think it’s spot on. Also has dealt with any feelings about how maybe i should watch the 2 hour interview.

That's superb, quotes like

They’re [the monarchy] basically a Rorschach test that the tabloids hold up in order to gauge what level of hysterical batshittery their readers are capable of at any moment in time.

:D
 
Here's the thing (well "a" thing), and you can see it here and there on this thread, in RL conversation and - if I'm brutally honest - in myself.

It's easy to downplay or almost legitimise the racism on display here because you're talking about victims who are exceptionally privileged, and show very little self-awareness of this. They're easy to hate on. And rightly so.

...but this gives those seeking to exploit and deploy racism to crank open divides as part of their "culture war" strategy a perfect opportunity to do their work.
 
In a $4,000 dollar dress, while their hero Biden finds ways to means test cheques that ordinary Americans need to eat and rows back on the Sanders Minimum Wage pledge...View attachment 258101

And now it's the Piers Morgan show... When will we get back to discussing things like the shitty 1% pay rise being offered to NHS staff? Or the weapons we're selling the Saudis/the cut in aid to Yemen?
 
I haven't watched live TV in years, and would not be surprised if this is becoming a majority position, especially in people under 50
...and map that onto the generational political opinion divide likewise
"what information do you get " is now very much an age issue
people are experiencing the information world in very different ways now, and age is probably the biggest defining factor
it fills me with just a little hope that the key baron-propagandists in this country are going to lose their grip over the next decades

as to morning tv i remember it being a much mellower affair, of half awake tv presenters doing a Take A Break style magazine programme
Sticking a shouty Piers Morgan on there seemed to be breaking a taboo.
 
Here's the thing (well "a" thing), and you can see it here and there on this thread, in RL conversation and - if I'm brutally honest - in myself.

It's easy to downplay or almost legitimise the racism on display here because you're talking about victims who are exceptionally privileged, and show very little self-awareness of this. They're easy to hate on. And rightly so.

...but this gives those seeking to exploit and deploy racism to crank open divides as part of their "culture war" strategy a perfect opportunity to do their work.
yeah this is a story of institutional establishment racism and classism first, a rampaging lawless life destroying press second, and an anachronistic needs-to-be-binned aristocracy third, with some good old fashioned patriarchal women are liars and manipulators thrown on top
 
...and map that onto the generational political opinion divide likewise
"what information do you get " is now very much an age issue
people are experiencing the information world in very different ways now, and age is probably the biggest defining factor
it fills me with just a little hope that the key baron-propagandists in this country are going to lose their grip over the next decades

as to morning tv i remember it being a much mellower affair, of half awake tv presenters doing a Take A Break style magazine programme
Sticking a shouty Piers Morgan on there seemed to be breaking a taboo.
I caught the end of a discussion on radio 4 this morning where they had a mother and a daughter with opposing views on the H&M situation (though not, of course, on the legitimacy of the royal family itself) and the daughter was pretty clear that her mum's mind was being poisoned by the Mail and the Sun, but she had access to a wider range of views via memes on instagram. :hmm:
 
I caught the end of a discussion on radio 4 this morning where they had a mother and a daughter with opposing views on the H&M situation (though not, of course, on the legitimacy of the royal family itself) and the daughter was pretty clear that her mum's mind was being poisoned by the Mail and the Sun, but she had access to a wider range of views via memes on instagram. :hmm:
its a brave new world!

how old is the daughter?
when i was 16 i never ever ever ever got any news from anything other than a tv news bulletin if I happened to watch it, which i rarely did
in a way it is a more radicalising situation for kids now, even if it is tiktok lipsynching to IRA songs!!
 
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