Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[Marty1]

I know that Trump retweets any old shite, but this did catch my attention...

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Yep, the ‘Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself’ phrase/meme is now mainstream and no longer regarded as one for the conspiracy theorists.

Most logical thinking people come to the credible assumption based on the circumstances that it’s likely that Epstein was killed before he could name names.

Well how about that.

 

[Orang Utan]

It’s also equally likely that he killed himself to avoid a trial and jail time
ETA: actually far more likely

 

[fishfinger]

It’s also equally likely that he killed himself to avoid a trial and jail time
ETA: actually far more likely

Especially as he had changed his will 2 days before his suicide. Making it much harder for his victims to make claims against his estate.

Jeffrey Epstein signed a will just two days before his death

 

[editor]

Yep, the ‘Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself’ phrase/meme is now mainstream and no longer regarded as one for the conspiracy theorists.

Most logical thinking people come to the credible assumption based on the circumstances that it’s likely that Epstein was killed before he could name names.

Well how about that.

You really don't speak on behalf of 'most logical thinking people .'

 

[TopCat]

You really don't speak on behalf of 'most logical thinking people .'

no one does. do you think he killed himself?

 

[editor]

no one does. do you think he killed himself?

I don't know and have got bigger things to worry about.

 

[Idris2002]

The thing about the Epstein case is that everything that is confirmed and in the public domain is already damning enough: we know he ran an organized rape ring; we know that one purpose of that ring was to collect compromising information on powerful people; we know that he was working for at least one western intelligence agency, and that this helped him evade serious punishment the first time he came to the attention of the authorities.

The "Epstein didn't kill himself stuff" is just icing on the cake. I happen to think he didn't kill himself, but the key point is that he wasn't one isolated pervert, but he was part of a bigger machine.

 

[William of Walworth]

The thing about the Epstein case is that everything that is confirmed and in the public domain is already damning enough: we know he ran an organized rape ring; we know that one purpose of that ring was to collect compromising information on powerful people; we know that he was working for at least one western intelligence agency, and that this helped him evade serious punishment the first time he came to the attention of the authorities.

The "Epstein didn't kill himself stuff" is just icing on the cake. I happen to think he didn't kill himself, but the key point is that he wasn't one isolated pervert, but he was part of a bigger machine.

Bolded bit : Is not the idea that he didn't kill himself near-exclusively the province of conspiracy theorists, and therefore near-automatically bollocks?

 

[Idris2002]

William of Walworth - the province of the conspiraloons is inhabited by people who explain everything as being the result of a Hidden Hand at work. I don't think that's the case, in this case or any other. The vital point about this case is what it reveals about the cliques of the world's powerbrokers really operate. No hidden hands required, just a lot of back scratching bolstered by (where necessary) kompromat.

With regard to Epstein's death, it's the fact the jail he was in hadn't lost a prisoner to suicide in decades, and that his hyoid bone was broken, something I had previously only heard of in the case of an American Spartacist woman who was murdered in Moscow in the early 1990s. That's what makes me think he didn't check out on a solo run . . . not because I have been turned by the conspiraloons and now see the scaly claws of the lizard people in all human events.

 

[William of Walworth]

Idris2002 Taking your points, you clearly know a lot more than I do. Thanks.

Still, conspiro-sceptics are naturally going to be cautious about it, given how loons have so eagerly latched on to this one.

That must be very annoying to any serious/sane people (like you) who have genuine suspicions!

 

[brogdale]

ooooff...

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

ooooff...

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[Bahnhof Strasse]

Seems Randy Andy owes six mill on his pad in Verbier and is being sued for it. Now mummy has stepped in and said she'll pay it to keep him from getting in to trouble. He's sixty years old ffs.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Seems Randy Andy owes six mill on his pad in Verbier and is being sued for it. Now mummy has stepped in and said she'll pay it to keep him from getting in to trouble. He's sixty years old ffs.

So, in essence, the taxpayer has bought him this nice little skiing chalet.

What next, 4 poster beds and Michelin star chefs on the beast wing?

 

[equationgirl]

Seems Randy Andy owes six mill on his pad in Verbier and is being sued for it. Now mummy has stepped in and said she'll pay it to keep him from getting in to trouble. He's sixty years old ffs.

Queen (via spokesman) denying stepping in to help. The Yorks claim that any debt they owe, almost £7m, will be cleared when they sell the chalet.

Must be nice to get half your mortgage value deferred for five years, I'm pretty sure my bank would tell me to get to fuck if I requested similar terms.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Queen (via spokesman) denying stepping in to help. The Yorks claim that any debt they owe, almost £7m, will be cleared when they sell the chalet.

Must be nice to get half your mortgage value deferred for five years, I'm pretty sure my bank would tell me to get to fuck if I requested similar terms.

Yeah, he's now saying mummy won't be paying, and we can take his word on this, cos honourable and tha...

 

[dessiato]

Yeah, he's now saying mummy won't be paying, and we can take his word on this, cos honourable and tha...

That’s right, no sweat...

 

[brogdale]

Hmmm

 

[Orang Utan]

Bet he's sweating now

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Bet he's sweating now

Or not. Allegedly and in quotes. ie even if true, from a deniable source, and will be denied by all parties, no doubt.

 

[Tankus]

Can't we do an extradition swop.? .. Andy.... For that woman who claimed diplomatic immunity and did a runner back to the States after killing that lad in an RTA?

Seems fair

 

[NoXion]

Bolded bit : Is not the idea that he didn't kill himself near-exclusively the province of conspiracy theorists, and therefore near-automatically bollocks?

Not all conspiracy theories are equal. Sometimes conspiracies really do happen.

The problem with the conspiracies that the Batshit Brigade come up with (such as the conspiracy to conceal the true shape of the Earth) is that they would have to involve thousands, if not actually hundreds of thousands of people. All of them would have to keep absolutely silent for decades on end, or would involve passing it down over the centuries. Yet we're supposed to believe that not a single one of these conspirators has ever given a deathbed confession, been tempted to spill the beans by large sums of money, or simply blabbed for the fame of being the first to blow the lid on the whole operation? Not even remotely plausible. And that's without even going into the lizardy shit.

But the idea that a handful of very powerful people would kill one man to stop him spilling the beans in court? How is that implausible?

I don't think Epstein killed himself either, but I will also admit that this belief is not based on any direct evidence. Maybe the truth will come out some years hence, and I will either have to revise my beliefs, or I will get the rare pleasure of being able to say "see, I told you so!". But until then, it's just my opinion.

 

[xenon]

Is he dead yet?

 

[Orang Utan]

#PrinceAndrewWontKillHimself

 

[maomao]

Apparentky the US prosecutors are just making a fuss for publicity (wtaf?) and Andrew's offered to help 'at least' three times. So why hasn't he been to spill the beans yet?

I don't think we should hand him over personally. Just get the paedo shitbag shot.

Prince Andrew 'offered to help Jeffrey Epstein prosecutors'

Prince Andrew's lawyers have clashed with US prosecutors over the duke's co-operation with the inquiry.

www.bbc.com

 

[MickiQ]

I is skeptical, If he genuine is completely innocent and has never met this girl (something which NO-ONE believes) then clearing his name would be his absolute top priority.
Given his spectacular car crash of an interview, I imagine his lawyers have realised that letting an actual cop interview him rather than a fairly deferential journalist would result in him being in handcuffs before the interview was through.
If they offered help then I guess there have been attempts to impose loads of pre-conditions on what the cops are allowed to ask him and the cops aren't having any.

 

[not-bono-ever]

I dont think andy boy will be popping over to NYC for a weekend shopping once the all clear is given.

The Royal roman polanski

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

He is a qualified pilot, so as a flight risk they should stick him in Belmash with Assange until this whole beastly business is resolved.

 

[maomao]

I is skeptical, If he genuine is completely innocent and has never met this girl (something which NO-ONE believes) then clearing his name would be his absolute top priority.
Given his spectacular car crash of an interview, I imagine his lawyers have realised that letting an actual cop interview him rather than a fairly deferential journalist would result in him being in handcuffs before the interview was through.
If they offered help then I guess there have been attempts to impose loads of pre-conditions on what the cops are allowed to ask him and the cops aren't having any.

This is quite possibly it. He's said he'll pop over for a cuppa and a chat if they put him up somewhere nice and they want a grand jury.

Grand juries are often televised aren't they? That would be wonderful.

 

[stavros]

Could the government do a deal, whereby they get Andy in return for that woman who killed that teenager last year by driving on the wrong side of the road? The first stage of the transatlantic trade deal.