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Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

I have to say that I have been well out of the details of this case - I tend to think that these super high profile celeb nonce stories are actually a bit of a distraction from more consequential things - likely to be an unpopular opinion tho. That all said, I did start reading up on developments recently and the Americans seem to be getting very excited about the idea that Epstein was an agent of some description. All sounds pretty outlandish but that is rather intriguing - opening up the possibility that the elite establishment is somehow being manipulated by intelligence services on behalf of some other interest.

Yeah, I've not been following it at all until the recent trial. And I do think on some level it's a distraction from all sorts of other stuff, but you know... it's 2022 and we take our fun where we can find it, and it's funny as fuck watching a thicko nonce causing a royal family car crash.
 

Amazingly Maitliss met with him a few days before the interview to go through it, the whole thing was his idea. PLEASE let him be cross-examined in court!

BBC getting their ducks in a row there. Building their defence already having probably realised this interview will possibly be used in evidence should it go to trial. After the most recent Diana interview fall out it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall in many places right now.
 
I have to say that I have been well out of the details of this case - I tend to think that these super high profile celeb nonce stories are actually a bit of a distraction from more consequential things - likely to be an unpopular opinion tho. That all said, I did start reading up on developments recently and the Americans seem to be getting very excited about the idea that Epstein was an agent of some description. All sounds pretty outlandish but that is rather intriguing - opening up the possibility that the elite establishment is somehow being manipulated by intelligence services on behalf of some other interest.
Noncery is a symptom of a corrupt and class-ridden society.
 
Just wanted to add in that I know while we're all laughing at him and this situation, behind this all a load of horrendous things have happened to women because of people he called friends, so know it's far from just a laugh.
I think we're enthused because it is so rare that one of this sort get caught. Even with the revelations of recent years you can count the number of people who've received their just desserts on your fingers and toes while the victims number in the hundreds if not thousands. This is really the tip of the iceberg
 
Unless he felt so entitled that he thought his 'word' would be enough to dispel any doubts.

Oh, and I think that is precisely what he thought. His Communications Secretary, Jason Stein quit his job when Nonce-face refused to listen to him and insist he clear his name with the interview. Stein quit days before the interview, "Mr Stein left ‘by mutual consent’ after advising to Duke not to speak to Newsnight, warning it could backfire."


And look at the cunt after the interview, he thought it went so well he's doing a little Amarillo dance...

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What's wrong with that, huh?

Here he is in London in his suit and tie...

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That it looks like the exact same clobber he's wearing in the picture in Maxwell's house is probably evidence of doctoring, or something.
Every time I see this photo, it looks less like dancing (the Mashed Potato? The Perspiring Prince? The Nonce Walk?) and more like desperately running away from a legal representative trying to serve a writ on his ass. Panic in his eyes.
 

Amazingly Maitliss met with him a few days before the interview to go through it, the whole thing was his idea. PLEASE let him be cross-examined in court!
I read that yesterday. No idea why she wrote it. She comes across almost apologetic for causing the imminent meltdown of noncey trousers, when she should be anything but.
 
I read that yesterday. No idea why she wrote it. She comes across almost apologetic for causing the imminent meltdown of noncey trousers, when she should be anything but.

Its an arse covering exercise because she and the BBC are possibly going to be getting pelters from certain sections of the media and public. Maitless is basically saying there were no tricks (unlike the Diana interview) this is what he wanted to say.

The fall out from the interview could yet be massive because that is when he essentially implicated himself. Its bound to be used as evidence in court of allowed.
 
So the left-leaning Urbs community are heaping praise upon a US judge, Strange Days Indeed.

EDIT: Mrs Q who so far has shown little to no interest in this case has offered her first pithy statement on it: 'He's in Deep Shit isn't he?'
Can't speak for anyone else, but my take on it would be that if even a US judge is calling out his bullshit for what it is, that tells us something about the level of bullshit.
 
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Amazingly Maitliss met with him a few days before the interview to go through it, the whole thing was his idea. PLEASE let him be cross-examined in court!
My instant reaction to the interview was that it was a bit cowardly, in not seeking more details that were in the public domain. Things like 'did royal protection officers know you had gone to pizza express'. 'you said we looked back and found I'd been at Pizza Express - who said that, was it your personal assistant', 'have you ever had sex whilst on trips as a royal or trade envoy' etc. I clearly got that wrong, partly because EM's growing tone of derision did for him in the interview. Most of all though, he completely fucked up what were simple questions that he should have had plausible answers for. As you say, it begs the question of who prepared him for the interview?
 
My instant reaction to the interview was that it was a bit cowardly, in not seeking more details that were in the public domain. Things like 'did royal protection officers know you had gone to pizza express'. 'you said we looked back and found I'd been at Pizza Express - who said that, was it your personal assistant', 'have you ever had sex whilst on trips as a royal or trade envoy' etc. I clearly got that wrong, partly because EM's growing tone of derision did for him in the interview. Most of all though, he completely fucked up what were simple questions that he should have had plausible answers for. As you say, it begs the question of who prepared him for the interview?

Maitlis says there that the whole point was for the kiddy-diddler to put across his side of things, clear it all up. I guess that after the meeting she had with him a couple of days earlier she knew to just keeping handing him rope.
 
"It was Prince Andrew who volunteered the information to me in that early meeting that he was "unable to sweat". His Falkland Islands wartime experiences, he claimed, had produced a glut of adrenalin that meant he hadn't been able to sweat properly since being shot at.

I remember him asking me very directly if we thought that would be interesting to hear. And I said yes - I was fascinated by adrenalin - and that we wanted to hear as much detail of his account as we could."
 
BBC getting their ducks in a row there. Building their defence already having probably realised this interview will possibly be used in evidence should it go to trial. After the most recent Diana interview fall out it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall in many places right now.

The difference is with Diana, the issue is whether and how the BBC seemingly manipulated her into giving the interview.

With Andrew, it's how much of what he said can be demonstrated to be bollocks
 
I have to say that I have been well out of the details of this case - I tend to think that these super high profile celeb nonce stories are actually a bit of a distraction from more consequential things - likely to be an unpopular opinion tho. That all said, I did start reading up on developments recently and the Americans seem to be getting very excited about the idea that Epstein was an agent of some description. All sounds pretty outlandish but that is rather intriguing - opening up the possibility that the elite establishment is somehow being manipulated by intelligence services on behalf of some other interest.
Why do you think this is inconsequential?
 
"It was Prince Andrew who volunteered the information to me in that early meeting that he was "unable to sweat". His Falkland Islands wartime experiences, he claimed, had produced a glut of adrenalin that meant he hadn't been able to sweat properly since being shot at.

I remember him asking me very directly if we thought that would be interesting to hear. And I said yes - I was fascinated by adrenalin - and that we wanted to hear as much detail of his account as we could."
I was so fascinated by a glut of Prince Andrenalin that I bought the company. Using money lent to me by the bouncing Czech.
 
I read that yesterday. No idea why she wrote it. She comes across almost apologetic for causing the imminent meltdown of noncey trousers, when she should be anything but.
I'm beginning to feel slightly vindicated in my initial view that she didn't probe very far and didn't question his version of events i.e. he just fucked himself in the interview.

But the point of the interview was not to catch him out - I can't stress this enough. The point of the interview was just to have a record of Prince Andrew's own version of events. He wanted to set his own record straight. He offered minutiae and anecdote, detail and description, and we were ready to hear it all.
 
Maitlis says there that the whole point was for the kiddy-diddler to put across his side of things, clear it all up. I guess that after the meeting she had with him a couple of days earlier she knew to just keeping handing him rope.
Hard to tell. I suspect the main thing for Newsnight was getting the interview regardless. She doesn't say this, but I'm guessing the negotiations they entered into had an element of reassuring him it wouldn't be a grilling. In fact given how the interview was set up it's astonishing he came out of it so badly.

Just one simple question I'd have liked: are you willing to take a lie detector test? Realise they aren't that reliable, but I'd have liked her approach to have been a bit more investigative. Water under the bridge though, he came out of it appallingly anyway. :thumbs:
 
Given his reputation for being an arrogant idiot, it wouldnt be hard to imagine them expecting sensational results even when pulling their punches was part of their plan.
 
Hard to tell. I suspect the main thing for Newsnight was getting the interview regardless. She doesn't say this, but I'm guessing the negotiations they entered into had an element of reassuring him it wouldn't be a grilling. In fact given how the interview was set up it's astonishing he came out of it so badly.

Just one simple question I'd have liked: are you willing to take a lie detector test? Realise they aren't that reliable, but I'd have liked her approach to have been a bit more investigative. Water under the bridge though, he came out of it appallingly anyway. :thumbs:

Like I say, after the preliminary meeting she knew that a bag of potatoes could sit in her chair and he'd still fuck himself, the thick nonce.
 
It affects a comparatively small and limited number of high profile people.

This is a celebrity story first and foremost, not a question of paramount justice (for me, at least).
I guess one test would be to ask how this will affect the future behaviour of people in positions of power who at one time might have thought they could abuse with impunity. Similar to how Savile et al coming to light has made certain things in certain contexts far more difficult to get away with. As with Savile, I'm not only interested in those who were abusing, but also in those who knew about it and did nothing. That's a certain kind of abusive cycle that might be broken as this all comes out.

And then it's just fun tbh to watch the idiot prince fuck himself up like this. Maybe shouldn't feel like that, but it's made me laugh.
 
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