Pop Brixton (formerly Grow Brixton) Pope's Road development

[299 old timer]

Just a thought - they could get a local primary school to send the kids down armed with paint and paintbrushes to paint nice images of butterflies and flowers on that horrid chipboard - big it up as a local community initiative or something...

 

[Winot]

Just a thought - they could get a local primary school to send the kids down armed with paint and paintbrushes to paint nice images of butterflies and flowers on that horrid chipboard - big it up as a local community initiative or something...

They have had primary school art exhibitions there.

 

[leanderman]

They have had primary school art exhibitions there.

Yep. All my kids have had art on show there.

 

[CH1]

Fans of Carl Turner on here will no doubt be interested to find out what other pies he has his fingers in.
This was tweeted by a dissident group in Southwark.
Maybe we should apply for a community grant to pay the £358.80 per delegate to see what's going down (or should I say coming down)

 

[editor]

So the Canterbury is flattened and replaced with this:

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Hope it pisses down with rain...

 

[editor]

Hope it pisses down with rain...

I'm going to take a look now. I think I'll need to take a deep breath before I go in.

 

[editor]

Bumped into the MD of Pop there and had a chat. Nice bloke.

 

[T & P]

I'm going to take a look now. I think I'll need to take a deep breath before I go in.

It looks cheesy and bland as fuck. I'd much rather watch in a big pub garden like The Duke of Edinburgh's.

 

[Pop Tart]

They stuck a load of commercial units underneath it so shifted it up a floor, and then stuck a walkway through the centre of it, so it bares scant resemblance to the original spacious ground level plan. It's now just a drinking/eating area with some plants shoved on the side.

Oh i see what you mean. Im not sure it look slike the use is all that different. Still lots of seats and tables with planters at sides. Hopefully they're climbing plants will grow over like in the pictures making it much greener. i suppose that takes time. Are they hops? The main thing missing compared to there original picture is the catering area but then they have extra catering units underneath so i dont think thats such a big deal. It is a shame the sitting areas are long and thin but I can see why the ramp was a good idea. I imagine the other design would also have been full of people drinking in the evenings too. people sure do like drinking!

 

[leanderman]

Pop Fields is pretty good for watching football in terms of screen, bars and loos.

Caught a few minutes of WAL-SLO.

Many of those I took to be Claphamites were not, judging by their accents.

 

[T & P]

Pop Fields is pretty good for watching football in terms of screen, bars and loos.

Caught a few minutes of WAL-SLO.

Many of those I took to be Claphamites were not, judging by their accents.

We're people sitting or standing? The image upthread of a load of folding chairs would suggest they'd expect people to sit down like if watching a film.

 

[leanderman]

We're people sitting or standing? The image upthread of a load of folding chairs would suggest they'd expect people to sit down like if watching a film.

Half and half.

 

[teuchter]

Football and other sports screenings have an even worse exclusionary effect on Brixton's pubs than gentrification or gastrofication do.

 

[SpamMisery]

Half and half.

Its a game of two halves after all

 

[Gramsci]

From what I have understood even through meditation the archictect didnt really budge his position throughout, Bus top never suggested they could carry on without him and they eventually did resign – maybe because they felt they could not manage the project without him - or maybe they could not convince the council that they could do it without him.

FWIW impossible to know but I dont think the archictect was bluffing either. The relationship looks like it was too one sided and he did not have to bluff. Apart from money he had much more experience of building. Anyway we are speculating and i doubt the archictect or Bus Stop people will come on here to clear it up for us. Its too scary!

I notice your user name contains Pop is there any connection with Turners Pop?

My reading of what Jasons article reports and what EBS say is different from yours.

Can you clear this up? You say in your post you are speculating. But also say that that Turner had much more experience of "building". Is that your speculation as well?

BTW a bluff is a bluff. Turner didn’t carry out his threat.

 

[Gramsci]

Football and other sports screenings have an even worse exclusionary effect on Brixton's pubs than gentrification or gastrofication do.

Having a chat with an unnamed community activist a few days ago.

He has seen the "Fields" and said Pop will rake it in from the two bars. (If weather holds up) and that the "community" use in daytime ( when its not going to be used much anyway for more profitable endeavours ) is just a sop to the local community.

After a few pints at the Beehive with CH1 on Saturday we had a look at Pop Fields. Despite the slightly inclement weather it was already packed. Good businessmen run Pop. The community bit is just PR.

 

[teuchter]

But also say that that Turner had much more experience of "building". Is that your speculation as well?

It's pretty obvious if you look at Turner's completed projects compared to EBS's.

 

[Gramsci]

It's pretty obvious if you look at Turner's completed projects compared to EBS's.

And if its the case that Turner had more building experience the question for me is why did Turner go into an equal partnership with two people from EBS initially? And suddenly decide to change his mind after the planning permission was obtained.

 

[teuchter]

And if its the case that Turner had more building experience the question for me is why did Turner go into an equal partnership with two people from EBS initially? And suddenly decide to change his mind after the planning permission was obtained.

I expect for complicated reasons we'll never know.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

And if its the case that Turner had more building experience the question for me is why did Turner go into an equal partnership with two people from EBS initially? And suddenly decide to change his mind after the planning permission was obtained.

If you want to take something all for yourself, then better to be sharing it first, than just nicking it outright....

 

[Pop Tart]

I notice your user name contains Pop is there any connection with Turners Pop?

My reading of what Jasons article reports and what EBS say is different from yours.

Can you clear this up? You say in your post you are speculating. But also say that that Turner had much more experience of "building". Is that your speculation as well?

BTW a bluff is a bluff. Turner didn’t carry out his threat.

I ws going to say no their is no connection but actually pop was the hot topic when I signed up last year so maybe that influenced my name choice!

the archictect didnt have to resign because he got what he wanted when they bus stop lot resigned. You obviously think that if they had not resigned he would have carried on working with them - in which case yes he would have been bluffing. It doesn't sound to me like he would have kept working with them as partners, in which case he was not bluffing but i guess well never know!

i dont really understand your question about the archictects experience. he is an award winning archictect who has also worked as a developer. whats to speculate about? do you doubt his experience or saying that the bus stop people have similar experience?

 

[T & P]

Interesting article on Pop Brixton's first year by Brixton Blog: Pop Brixton’s first year - Brixton Blog



I found this stat noteworthy, not least because I thought the percentage would be higher...

The food and drink space in Pop Brixton is less than 35% of our footprint. When we opened last year, the ground and first floors were predominantly made up of retail and food and drink businesses – the perception has stuck.

 

[brixtonblade]

Interesting article on Pop Brixton's first year by Brixton Blog: Pop Brixton’s first year - Brixton Blog



I found this stat noteworthy, not least because I thought the percentage would be higher...

Is that the footprint of the areas selling food and drink or does it include all the spaces for people to sit whilst they eat and drink?

 

[T & P]

Is that the footprint of the areas selling food and drink or does it include all the spaces for people to sit whilst they eat and drink?

As I understood it, it is the footprint of the entire site. But I'm only quoting the article so no idea if accurate.

 

[teuchter]

Interesting article on Pop Brixton's first year by Brixton Blog: Pop Brixton’s first year - Brixton Blog

Not an "exclusive"

 

[Gramsci]

the archictect didnt have to resign because he got what he wanted when they bus stop lot resigned. You obviously think that if they had not resigned he would have carried on working with them - in which case yes he would have been bluffing. It doesn't sound to me like he would have kept working with them as partners, in which case he was not bluffing but i guess well never know!

I have already explained the timeline in the article. He didn’t carry out his threat.

EBS resigned later on after trying to soldier on.

 

[leanderman]

Free stuff:

 

[SpamMisery]

More free stuff: Glastonbury (or almost)

Glastonbury on the big screen, live djs, face painting, flower crowns etc. Some kind of mini free festival.

Was on today but only just found out

Looks like Pop does a free music event each Friday. Is that a new thing?

 

[editor]

Full bag searches for anyone wanting to enjoy the green community oasis today. #nothanks