Pop Brixton (formerly Grow Brixton) Pope's Road development
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T & P
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A sad sign of the times we live in, and common enough across countless other venues that get busy.
If you are really trying to spin such security measures into a stick to beat Pop Brixton with... well, be my guest.
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hiraethified
I believe its valid to note how Pop's own commercial interests are guaranteeing that what was supposed to be a green oasis for the community has turned into another privatised space, watched over by security guards who can forbid you from entering unless you agree to let them rifle through the contents of your bag.
I'm struggling to think of any nearby 'public space' - or even any local pub, come to think of it - that hires two security guards on the door to search every person coming in at 6.30pm on a Monday. But I guess I shouldn't complain about it for fear of being accused of just being beastly to Pop Brixton, eh?
T & P
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Pop Brixton will have a much higher concentration of 'bodies' (to put it bluntly and from a bomber's point of view) than other types of open spaces such as commons and parks. It is exactly the kind of place that would rank on the top of the list of any would-be terrorist. Just as football fan zones are. To try to berate the venue for trying to keep people safe seems extraordinary to me.
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hiraethified
Oh, it's because of terrorism now is it? Really? Oh hahahaha. Now that is truly fucking priceless.
So how come far, far busier places in Brixton (e.g. the tube) aren't being subjected to private security guard searches at 6pm then? Any idea?
T & P
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The tube is not regularly subject to bag searches, even if it has ever been once in its entire history. It's just not practical or realistically doable at all if you want to have a running Underground.
What makes you think it is so unlikely that a place like Pop might be targeted? Because London is not on the wish list of terrorist organisations abroad or a potential target for radicalised individuals here. Oh, not at all. Complete over-reaction by Pop Brixton. How very dare they.
What makes you think it is so unlikely that a place like Pop might be targeted? Because London is not on the wish list of terrorist organisations abroad or a potential target for radicalised individuals here. Oh, not at all. Complete over-reaction by Pop Brixton. How very dare they.
Mr Retro
Beware hedgehogs
Agree with this unfortunately. What a fuckng world it is at the moment.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
If Pop Brixton were targeted by terrorists a couple of goons searching bags isn't going to stop it. How's that going to work, they're going to stand in the queue then let their weapons be taken away?
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hiraethified
Er, you don't know your Brixton history. There has been bag searches, metal detectors and even sub-machine toting police officers at Brixton tube.
Pop Brixton is generally pretty empty at 6pm so even if highly confused terrorists decided to put the community green oasis on their hitlist, it wouldn't be much of a hit.
wurlycurly
diss member
Get a grip. The only bombs they're searching for is Jagerbombs.
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hiraethified
The notion that Pop Brixton would "rank on the top of the list of any would-be terrorist," really is utterly bonkers.
T & P
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Tell that to the various small cafes in Paris or non-descript suburb supermarkets that got visited by various murdering nutjobs over the course of the last year.The notion that Pop Brixton would "rank on the top of the list of any would-be terrorist," really is utterly bonkers.
You know exactly what I meant anyway. For any fuckwit deciding to go postal in Brixton, the likes of Pop Brixton would be a very obvious target. And in any case such searches are not just about high-profile terrorism, of course, but everyday security, the like of which takes place at countless other venues. But by all means do continue telling yourself the only purpose of bag searches in Pop Brixton is to antagonise customers, or whichever other bizarre conspiracy theory reason you might think is behind it.
wurlycurly
diss member
This is precisely the absurd train of thought that led us into the Brexit debacle.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Make it an open public space then, rather than a private enclosed yard of steel containers (they're not 'edgy and street', they look shit because they're for industrial use) with added bouncers.
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hiraethified
You've dreamt up the most ludicrous - some may even say embarrassing - excuse for Pop Brixton yet.
If it was to prevent some supposed imminent terrorist threat, why aren't anti-terrorism police there? By your paranoid reasoning, bag searches by low paid security staff should be the norm almost everywhere because if you think the often near-empty Pop Brixton would "rank on the top of the list of any would-be terrorist," then just about everywhere in London should be battening down for fear of attack.
The reason for the bag searches is blindingly obvious to anyone not frozen with fear about non-existent terrorist threats to inconsequential beer gardens. No conspiracy needed.
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hiraethified
Problem solved. A real public square for the community to use.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
So Pop *is* responsible for Brexit. I thought as much.
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hiraethified
No, it ranks on the top of the list of any would-be terrorist, it's that important. It's the most obvious target in Brixton. Apparently.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
They are likely searching bags for food and drink first. Weapons of mass destruction second. Immigrants third.
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hiraethified
#topofterroristlist
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
If people who dont like bag searches dont go because they dont like bag searches, I'd say thats job done. They're exactly the ones I dont want to be sharing a public space with.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Who likes bag searches?
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Bar owners, and people terrified of terrorism lurking on every corner.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Tourism is lurking on every corner
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hiraethified
No one, unless there's a very, very good reason for them. It certainly stopped me going in to the place. I don't want some fucker rifling through my personal stuff just so I can access what is supposed to be a "public" space.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Electric Brixton has the most thorough and intrusive searches of any venue I have been in for 30 years.
