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Think it's about concentration for smaller parties. lDs have learnt that the hard way and have regrown their local government strength in a lot of places, that they hadn't back in 17 or 19. Or even built in new places. Like Oxfordshire.

Whereas Reform has nothing like that and may never do.

The Greens seem to be replicating the LD method which might pay off perhaps next GE. They've been getting a lot better at campaigning and surely must have a lot of up and coming talent.
 
Torbay going lib dem and mid Devon (mix of farmers and Exeter suburbs) going Labour is interesting. My constituency still bloody Tory
 
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Could honestly see Reform UK being the main right wing party by the election after next, aided by mass defections from Tories fleeing the sinking ship. There's only 5% difference between them.

I'd hope this could herald the rise of some new Left movement/s as Labour digs in at the very centre and looks like the great dinosaur turd it is. However, aside from the old issue of factionalism, the (Labour) government will anyway call any kind of pressure from the left 'dangerously extremist', and move to criminalise it.

Still, I'd hope. The problem seems to be that nobody with the means to be in a position to do anything about it, is being honest about what's actually wrong and how fucked everything is. Still less what might actually need to be done to start mending it. It's not vote winning material.
 
such a fascinating map this one.....because of FPTP these maps are usually just a wall of blue and red ubran centres and dont tell you much about the political culture of the country and its counties, but on this one you really get a sense of the demographic of Britain....the zones of Scotland is a good case in point...

For me its basically a tolerance of Tories map, with red, yellow, orange and green describing the flavour of Tory intolerance
 
Are there any predictions about how Farage's re-entry into the race will affect the final outcome? He's obviously going to take votes from the Tories, and I imagine a few from Labour, but how might that impact the overall distribution of seats at the end of it? Does it mean even more of a Tory wipeout?
 
Are there any predictions about how Farage's re-entry into the race will affect the final outcome? He's obviously going to take votes from the Tories, and I imagine a few from Labour, but how might that impact the overall distribution of seats at the end of it? Does it mean even more of a Tory wipeout?
Too soon for polls i would think. Give it a few days.
 
Are there any predictions about how Farage's re-entry into the race will affect the final outcome? He's obviously going to take votes from the Tories, and I imagine a few from Labour, but how might that impact the overall distribution of seats at the end of it? Does it mean even more of a Tory wipeout?
As moochedit says, we'll have to wait a while for post- Farage polling fieldwork to come through. Meanwhile, you might find more takers for your questions in the GE speculation thread?
 
Farage seems to be getting a lot of coverage today. Not quite sure where that sits with the idea of electoral neutrality for the broadcasters - probably enough of a news story to justify it. As to affecting the polls, hard to say. It's interesting how consistent they have been and unaffected by events. Maybe the Lab v Con aspect of the election is pretty much set in stone now, though interjections like Farage standing might do a bit. The Reflux vote has been a kind of inert Brexit after effect so far. Perhaps Farage might make it more active. Equally this election was probably done and dusted in the period of Partygate and Cost of Living Crisis. Once Johnson's successful 2019 populism shifted into a clear message to the voters that they ain't on your side and were partying while we died, there was no way back.
 
3 for Reform? Pre Farage?!?
I was trying to find a seat, other than Clacton, where they might be able to win. In Ashfield, they're in 4th place (according to the bookies). It's Labour v some local Independent according to them. Barnsley North is supposedly their most likely bet, but they are still advertising for a candidate there!

If a couple more (former) MP's turn, they could have a chance there, but that couldn't be factored into any polling.
 
Boston and Skegness or South Holland and The Deepings have a lot of Reform-adjacent Tories who may very well switch their allegiance if they fancy the candidate.
 
Survation poll shows my home constituency 'Taunton & Wellington' is getting interesting..

Historically Labour vote has been minimal... just hope split Labour and LibDems between them don't let the Tory in. Reform doing some useful work here..

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