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danny la rouge said:
Oh it's worse than that, I'm afraid. He's arguing for a "reeducation" of party politics back towards all-party liberal consensus. Notice he starts by saying this is a project "Cameroons", "Blairites" and "Cleggites" are all involved in. That none of them feel politically at home now. He's talking about "Centrist" forces that the Economist can get behind reshaping all the parties back towards convergence. So that the choice is no choice. It's a liberal entryist coup.
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Its the breathtaking sense of entitlement of these cunts. Sooner or later the silly voters will come to their senses and realise that they need to have us grown-ups back in charge of them.
 
newbie said:
so what comes next?
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I cannot say what comes next with any degree of certainty, only that liberalism is on the way out.

However, I would guess we could see a return to a more 'normal' form of politics, more polarised with the issues of class, economy and wealth distribution taking centre stage again (as they should IMO) and radical political formations from both the left and right gaining at the expense of the political centre and the neo-liberal consensus. The neo-liberal consensus may seem like that is how politics has always been done but historically that has not been the case.
 
Raheem said:
There's a lot of polls out today, though...
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Yes, Comres also deliberately underweights youth/working-class vote. Assuming, I think I'm right in saying, a decline on 2015 voting patterns amongst young people. I don't think that's possible
 
J Ed said:
Yes, Comres also deliberately underweights youth/working-class vote. Assuming, I think I'm right in saying, a decline on 2015 voting patterns amongst young people. I don't think that's possible
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They are assuming that voters will turn-out in roughly the same proportions as they did in 2015, when only 44% of 18-24 year olds voted.

However their own poll says 66% of 18-24 year olds are "absolutely certain to vote" when asked the question.
 
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mather said:
I cannot say what comes next with any degree of certainty, only that liberalism is on the way out.

However, I would guess we could see a return to a more 'normal' form of politics, more polarised with the issues of class, economy and wealth distribution taking centre stage again (as they should IMO) and radical political formations from both the left and right gaining at the expense of the political centre and the neo-liberal consensus. The neo-liberal consensus may seem like that is how politics has always been done but historically that has not been the case.
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I was thinking we've had neo-cons and neo-liberals maybe it's time for neo-socialism
 
'Kinell.

At some point I'm going to have to stop assuming these are outliers or dodgy methodologies.

Just got the sense in the last couple of days that Labour was stalling, more because there haven't been any Tory calamities to capitalise on. The Facebook army seemed quieter, but apparently back on it this evening.
 
Dogsauce said:
'Kinell.

At some point I'm going to have to stop assuming these are outliers or dodgy methodologies.

Just got the sense in the last couple of days that Labour was stalling, more because there haven't been any Tory calamities to capitalise on. The Facebook army seemed quieter, but apparently back on it this evening.
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Increasing numbers of poll respondents are seemingly seeing the tories as a calamity, full stop.
Perhaps it wasn't such a smart move for May to draw public attention onto what a shower of cunts they are.
 
I'm genuinely shocked because he usually votes tory, lib dem or not at all. I don't think he has ever voted for them :D
 
You'll know it's all over when the Tory shills on BBC start looking like they're shitting themselves. Don't think we're there yet, but I hope there's a bit of fear creeping in (likely unwarranted as I don't think Corbyn is a vindictive type).
 
It's all gone a bit Boaty McBoatface.

I hate the fact that I'm too used to disappointment, too pessimistic to let myself enjoy this.

Dare to dream stuff like Barwell out, Soubry out, the whining of many many cunts, the total meltdown of the local paper BTL idiots. Imagine the bad mood of Kelvin Mackenzie, the furrowed face of Toby Young.
 
Dogsauce said:
It's all gone a bit Boaty McBoatface.

I hate the fact that I'm too used to disappointment, too pessimistic to let myself enjoy this.

Dare to dream stuff like Barwell out, Soubry out, the whining of many many cunts, the total meltdown of the local paper BTL idiots. Imagine the bad mood of Kelvin Mackenzie, the furrowed face of Toby Young.
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Even better, the (potentially fatal?) degree of cognitive dissonance experienced by any of the 172 actually winning their seats for Corbyn.
 
Dogsauce said:
Imagine the bad mood of Kelvin Mackenzie, the furrowed face of Toby Young.
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Before I had properly processed what you meant, I imagined it furrowed by a tractor-drawn plough. Guess that won't happen, but I'd like to see him wandering the corridors of an empty Free School.
 
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