Boris Sprinkler
Dont be scared
its actually standard training for the deviants that make up police forces.
So, upsetting to hear about yes, but this happens fucking everywhere
Police strip search 15-year old in school
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So, upsetting to hear about yes, but this happens fucking everywhere
The staff thought that they had a duty of care because they could smell weed. As I deliver pizzas most nights I can smell it as I get out the car some times before going up the path. So given that they could smell drugs on this kid (ok folks its only weed keep your hair on) what should they have done. Bear in mind the alternative headlines if she ended up coming to harm through being in a situation where it was obvious that she was mixing or associating with drug users enough to be recognised as such.
Here's another one just for the Urban parents. Would you be happy if your kid came home from school stinking of weed
Here's another one just for the Urban parents. Would you be happy if your kid came home from school stinking of weed
baldrick
hmmmmm
So a duty of care involves a strip search does it?
Dont be so silly. I said nothing about that
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
The very definition of "above the law". No wonder the police seem to be over-represented in the ranks of sexual abusers.Was shocked to learn a couple of years ago that filth are not DBS checked.
In light of Sarah Everard I guess that is not such shocking news to people now
baldrick
hmmmmm
Explain your point then
urbanspaceman
Well-Known Member
Would you say that Duty of Care requires a group of policeman to look up the anus of an unaccompanied fifteen year old schoolgirl who is on her period ? Trick question: it doesn't matter what you think. There are so many rules and laws that utterly prohibit. this behaviour
Sorry I thought I had .Teachers felt they had a duty of care when they detected possible drug use or association with drug users. So who you gonna call. that's when things go awry. Perhaps they thought they were acting in this persons best interest. That is what I tried to convey above. Should the teachers have ignored these signposts?
I refer you to the answer I gave previously but does not suit you because you are angry and want to blame someone
tonysingh
Random Clever and Witty Strapline
The teachers certainly didn't ignore the signpost that said call the old bill on a black kid did they?
I'm shocked by everything here but certainly by the fact that male officers conducted the search. At a fucking minimum I'd expect female coppers to conduct a search of a female, especially a child
felixthecat
are we there yet?
Jesus wept.
felixthecat
are we there yet?
Teachers can
1. Speak to said child
2. Call said child's parents
3. Make a safeguarding report to social services
Ffs they don't need to complicit in sexual assault
1. Speak to said child
2. Call said child's parents
3. Make a safeguarding report to social services
Ffs they don't need to complicit in sexual assault
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
No. But nor should they have ignored the "signposts" of a police officer taking a child unsupervised to strip search them.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
"I smelled cannabis" can barely get a cop into an address without permission. A strip and cavity search would only be done if something else incriminating is found and your are expecting to find something quite serious concealed. Nobody hides cannabis in a cavity because nobody cares, it's not even worth it for cops to look if that is all they are after, because cannabis alone does not warrant a strip search. . . . . and that's before you consider that this is a minor, without parents present or notified.
Thora
Differently Ethical
A 15 year old either taking drugs or holding/moving drugs should be a safeguarding issue.
The teachers had already searched her bag and coat (with her co-operating). They didn't find anything.
It should have been a trusted adult talking with her, a meeting with her parents, maybe a call to children's services/safeguarding hub.
From reading the report it does seem like the teacher/s involved weren't expecting a strip search (who would? It's such a bizarre reaction from the police) but they were expecting the police to pat her down and scare her a bit.
The school response was all about discipline, catching her out, punishing her rather than care and concern.
Boris Sprinkler
Dont be scared
Last time I was asked to spread my arse (swedish border), it's because his dog smelled cannabis. Let's ignore the fact that he's talking to a dog. Noone puts drugs in their arse cos they arent fucking weirdos.
It's a weird power thing they have going on because they are scared of everything.
bellaozzydog
rolling turds in glitter
You’d think with multiple coppers arriving at a school site that there would be at least one senior grown up teacher around who knew the score and advocated for the pupil/controlled the coppers
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
This is awful. I expect the IOPC report will do little more than slap their wrists. The poor girl.
Thora
Differently Ethical
It was an academy, so I'd guess most of the teachers were newly qualified 22 year olds (cheap and compliant!).
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
to be fair that's not entirely true, years back i had some charis which came back from india up someone's bottom. but the chance of a schoolgirl in hackney a) smelling of cannabis and b) having secreted it up their jaxi or in another orifice is, i'd suggest to both teachers and police, on the extremely unlikely side: if a) is indeed true. it is a weird power thing, and the people involved, be they teachers or police officers, should reconsider their position and if they don't resign be ousted from their posts forthwith.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
/contacted the parents before calling the cops, at a minimum
bellaozzydog
rolling turds in glitter
It’s an absolute failure at every single level by everyone involved
Get Cressida Dick on the trafalgar plinth at rush hour and give her a public prison pocket search
That's bullshit. If I am stopped and the cops smell weed, they can take it wherever they want to go from there and that is right inside my house with a warrant
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
By the letter of the rules you would have to inform safeguarding staff. Who should then address the issue directly with the child and their parents, and escalate the matter to the police only if there was a concern that the child was involved in something like county lines drug trafficking. That concern would have to be based on something other than a possible smell of weed.
Safeguarding staff should know that no adult who had not provided evidence of DBS clearance in advance should be on the premises unescorted for any reason. I went for a job interview last week and despite already working at a school in the same trust and having a copy of my DBS certificate on my person I was still not allowed to walk down the corridor to use the toilet without a member of staff. This is absolutely standard practice at every school I've worked at.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
You're (presumably) an adult. And still, they very much can't do whatever they like.
I totally agree but in the absence of supervision, there were two male officers and two female officers present.
Yes that is the theory. Have you come up against the police much and seen how much that they can distort your rights
andysays
Love and solidarity
According to this report, the search was carried out by female officers (not that that makes everything OK, just clarifying this one point)
The idea that because she smelt of cannabis she must have some in her possession, or even that she must herself have been smoking, is a nonsense, TBH.
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