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Police shoot man in forest gate

zArk said:
yeah, both are scarey as the control of information is paramount and puts into question the validity and the unbias of the press.

So if scenario (a) is right and they don't want to risk aircraft systems setting a bomb off, they should have to take that risk because Scum readers seeing a picture of the top of a house and some police cars is more important than the safety of the people working there?
 
TAE said:
Is that normal?

Which, worrying about systems setting bombs off or helicopters being annoying?

No idea about whether aircraft systems can set bombs off to be honest, it would depend on the frequencies they work on and the frequency the receiver on the detonator works on. If there was a risk of it, I'd want a no fly zone before I went messing round inside the house as well.

It might just be they don't want to be annoyed by helicopters flying over every five minutes - they are annoying.

Maybe if they believe there could be biological/chemical weapons there (since they are wearing NBC suits), they just don't want anyone flying over if something goes wrong and they get let off somehow.
 
editor said:
How much do you pay yourelf and doesn't it bother you that your preset agenda tends to get in the way of finding out the truth?

I've an open mind about this incident and will keep it that way until I have enough information to make a judgement.

Ok, that what you do. I aint you and dont employ your methods. Thanks for the advise though.

Employ -- doesnt necessaily mean financial gain. Your assumption casts light upon your second sentence of 'open mind'
 
Bigdavalad said:
Or alternatively, there is a potential bomb making factory that is being investigated and they don't want some fuckwit reporter from the Scum hiring a plane, swooping over the property to get exclusive photos and setting something off with equipment in their plane?

Either that or maybe they just don't two hundred helicopter hovering thrity feet over them while they try and work?
erm it's a bit of a red herring innit as an aircraft flying over london you wouldn't be alllowed to fly low period, regardless of the situation ... except in the case of landing... fuck it you should see the paper work we had to get through to allow a tethered ballon off tower bridge....
 
Sky news-
A man has been shot by police in an anti-terror raid in London on a suspected chemical or biological bomb factory, Sky News has learnt. The 20-year-old, who has not been identified, has been arrested and taken to hospital but his life is not in danger, the police watchdog said.

His 23-year-old brother - both men are of Pakistani origin - was also arrested at the scene and is in custody. The first man has been arrested on suspicion of the commission, preparation and instigation of acts of
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terrorism.

Reuters -

Scotland Yard said the 23-year-old man was wounded after more than 250 officers, acting on intelligence, staged the raid, one of the biggest since last July's suicide bombings on the capital's transport system.

Guardian -
The 23-year-old man who was shot has been taken to the Royal London hospital, in Whitechapel, where he is understood to be under armed guard. His wounds are not life-threatening.

heh, who got shot the 23 year old or the 20 year old?
who went to hospital and who is being questioned at the police station?

its absolutely disgraceful reporting

yet both the times and sky are touting the 'bomb making factory line but cant agree on the ages

added-
the mirror
The suspect, who has so far not been identified, was taken to a local hospital. His injuries are not thought to be life-threatening.

A 23-year-old man who was arrested at the scene is currently being held in custody at a police station in central London
 
The air exclusion thing would be for press helicopters, no ?

e2a Somebody's already made this point I see
 
oh, its gets better;

the daily express --

A hospital spokesman refused to confirm whether the man had been admitted but said there was a heavier police presence than usual.

Police said that two people in the house at the time of the raid were taken to a nearby hospital for treatment and have since been released. They were not shot and are believed to have been suffering shock.


ermm 'they were not shot'????? 2 taken to hospital???
 
zArk said:
oh, its gets better;

the daily express --

A hospital spokesman refused to confirm whether the man had been admitted but said there was a heavier police presence than usual.

Police said that two people in the house at the time of the raid were taken to a nearby hospital for treatment and have since been released. They were not shot and are believed to have been suffering shock.


ermm 'they were not shot'????? 2 taken to hospital???

Err..... so what? It's just inaccurate reporting due to lack of information.

What, are you suggesting, is the significance of your last two posts?
 
Spymaster said:
Err..... so what? It's just inaccurate reporting due to lack of information.

What, are you suggesting, is the significance of your last two posts?

So what?

I was asking questions. Did you miss them? OK, i will repeat them;

1) ermm 'they were not shot'????? 2 taken to hospital???

2) who got shot the 23 year old or the 20 year old?

3) who went to hospital and who is being questioned at the police station?


Just inaccurate reporting --- oh well, i guess thats that then. Dont believe anything you read in the papers, they have no integrity and no validity. They report anything without investigation. -- actually vaguely true. The story of the gallow maker was admitted as false but the press was all over it for days.
 
zArk said:
Sky news-
A man has been shot by police in an anti-terror raid in London on a suspected chemical or biological bomb factory, Sky News has learnt. The 20-year-old, who has not been identified, has been arrested and taken to hospital but his life is not in danger, the police watchdog said.

<snip>

Absolute bollox, in times like this the story changes from minute to minute until things calm down. You then get a clearer picture of what has transpired because you have a greater nimber of these things called FACTS. Making judgments on the basis of known FACTS is what sane people do.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Absolute bollox, in times like this the story changes from minute to minute until things calm down. You then get a clearer picture of what has transpired because you have a greater nimber of these things called FACTS. Making judgments on the basis of known FACTS is what sane people do.

when do things calm down;

when the same story is rattled out through all media outlets?
when the officials say 'these are the facts'?
 
zArk said:
when do things calm down;

when the same story is rattled out through all media outlets?
when the officials say 'these are the facts'?
What is your point? That online reporting and instant reporting is about as reliable as birtish rail?

*waits for room to fall silent in shock*
 
zArk said:
I was asking questions. Did you miss them? OK, i will repeat them;

1) ermm 'they were not shot'????? 2 taken to hospital???

2) who got shot the 23 year old or the 20 year old?

3) who went to hospital and who is being questioned at the police station?

I still don't see your point (and don't believe you have one). Are you suggesting that the current lack of information surrounding the above points indicates some kind of conspiracy?
 
Lets just re-read the title of the thread shall we?


police shoot man in forest gate?


ahhhh, i see a question mark.
 
zArk is another conspiraloon's alternate login - in an attempt to make that other look sane by comparison - and I claim my €5.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
No you don't, we all hate you and want you to die!

oh thats nice -- mardy bum

Trouble is, most of you read what you want to and miss an important aspect.

nice post rollem.



Well now then Mardy Bum
Oh I'm in trouble again, aren't I
I thought as much
Cause you turned over there
Pulling that silent disappointment face
The one that I can't bare
 
laptop said:
zArk is another conspiraloon's alternate login - in an attempt to make that other look sane by comparison - and I claim my €5.

yeah laptop -- its all conspiraloonacy even though its right there in front of you.

??????
 
zArk said:
Trouble is, most of you read what you want to and miss an important aspect.

I've had enough of your shit. Come on then dickface, tell us what we're missing. Tell us what is beyond our comprehension but within yours cos at the moment you're trolling.
 
Spymaster said:
I've had enough of your shit. Come on then dickface, tell us what we're missing. Tell us what is beyond our comprehension but within yours cos at the moment you're trolling.

it was the question mark in the title of the thread which answers all your questions about why i am posting.

??????
^^^
the important aspect
 
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