Rollem
two kinds of wonderful
under terrorism act
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5040022.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5040022.stm
Police shoot man in forest gate
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skunkboy69
Reverend of Eternal Light
Sky says it's a bomb making factory but he was the only one arrested.
liampreston
Spend time, not money
Much as i am probably the minority here, cannot we wait until there are more certain facts before laying into the police/establishment without much more than one story on the incident?
liampreston said:
heh, you'll be lucky.
There is quite a bit of info on the Ricin Plot and Bourgass ricin plot and mi6/iraq war/torture evidence/porten down involvement
editor said:
fair point -- the similarity is not yet established. I am assuming that false intelligence has provoked this house assault and the excuse of 'suspected terrorism' is putting people in extreme danger just for the benefit of political interests.
i will wait a few days for this to unfold and return
because of this statementeditor said:
"At this stage there is nothing to suggest members of the public in the immediate area are at risk," Scotland Yard said in a statement.
it suggests that shooting a member of public does not put that person at immediate risk
or
it suggests that the person and police involved are not members of the public
and the link was through this post
Sky says it's a bomb making factory but he was the only one arrested.
Sky News, citing unnamed sources, said the raided house had been a suspected bomb factory.
Police only confirmed that the raid was not linked to last July's attacks on London's transport system which killed 52 commuters.
Officers wearing chemical, biological and radiological protective clothing were sent to the scene in the ethnically mixed Forest Gate area of the capital while nearby roads were cordoned off.
The bomb disposal unit and riot police were also dispatched to the house in a row of Victorian properties around the corner from a road of shops.
editor
hiraethified
And exactly how does that statement lead to you immediately making a connection with, "Ricin Plot and Bourgass, ricin plot and mi6/iraq war/torture evidence/porten down involvement" and "false intelligence" provoking "this house assault and the excuse of 'suspected terrorism' is putting people in extreme danger just for the benefit of political interests."?zArk said:
editor said:
Immediately after the police operation which resulted in the death of a policeman, the media told us was because of a ricin plot and later the Police confirmed this. The flat was a 'chemcial factory' for the production of Ricin.
That was their mantra and the reason for the raid.
It is a similar mantra to this incident and the police statement will confirm their intelligence reasons for the Raid.
lostexpectation
New Member
don't worry he just one of the dozens of muslim men who been arrested over the last years of whom we'll hear very little of again...
this apparently happened at 4am, im sure i didn't see anything about this till morning, I only saw it on the news just now at 11:30 it seemed like they were just breaking it then...
The decision to launch the raid followed discussions between MI5, the Met's anti-terrorist branch and the Health Protection Agency - which advised on the potential health risks of the raid.
ooh ahhh
The Civil Aviation Authority says an air exclusion zone has been set up over east London and will be in place for four days.
Aircraft are banned from flying over the site in Forest Gate below 2,500ft.
impressive!
this apparently happened at 4am, im sure i didn't see anything about this till morning, I only saw it on the news just now at 11:30 it seemed like they were just breaking it then...
The decision to launch the raid followed discussions between MI5, the Met's anti-terrorist branch and the Health Protection Agency - which advised on the potential health risks of the raid.
ooh ahhh
The Civil Aviation Authority says an air exclusion zone has been set up over east London and will be in place for four days.
Aircraft are banned from flying over the site in Forest Gate below 2,500ft.
impressive!
liampreston
Spend time, not money
In other words, "I am not jumping to conclusions but, i am assuming that...."
It may be worth waiting..this may even be real?!
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Going by that article it seems they're really doing a pr number with statements like this:
liampreston said:
i think the bullet in the shoulder was real enough to be able to comment on this issue immediately. Within the past few years of Raids using the terrorist act 2000 the emerged evidence of 'fuck ups' and 'weak evidence' by intelligence agencies allows me to strongly suggest this is just another 'political show' and 'flexing of new-law muscle.
there is a no-fly zone set up over the area. no plane or aircraft can fly 2,500 ft or below. I cant work out the rational for it.
unless;
this was an exercise to determin the effectiveness of a multi agency operation. The control of information and the securing of an area.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Christ, zark just shut up and wait for more information, it's possible you can make yourself look more stupid than you are here, but i don't see how.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
Oh come on, its quite clearly a government-sponsored plot to shoot all suspicious people on sight - I mean, a neighbour is quoted as saying:
"They were respectable and nice people and we do not know anything else. They have always been nice to us," she said. "They have lived there for a long time. The kids all go to school locally."
Its obvious innit, they're after us all, infamy, infamy, they've all got it infamy.....
"They were respectable and nice people and we do not know anything else. They have always been nice to us," she said. "They have lived there for a long time. The kids all go to school locally."
Its obvious innit, they're after us all, infamy, infamy, they've all got it infamy.....
Bigdavalad
New Member
zArk said:
Or alternatively, there is a potential bomb making factory that is being investigated and they don't want some fuckwit reporter from the Scum hiring a plane, swooping over the property to get exclusive photos and setting something off with equipment in their plane?
Either that or maybe they just don't two hundred helicopter hovering thrity feet over them while they try and work?
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Now i see.zArk said:
editor
hiraethified
How much do you pay yourself and doesn't it bother you that your preset agenda tends to get in the way of finding out the truth?zArk said:
I've an open mind about this incident and will keep it that way until I have enough information to make a judgement.
You just might find such an open-minded approach beneficial, you know.
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