Peter Dow's political defence -v- "criminal tweets" charge

[DotCommunist]

oh well thats odd

good luck in Feb anyway peter, think of it this way: whatever happens you'll still be at liberty in december so you can have a massive xmas dinner and watch the new star wars film.

 

[killer b]

gentlegreen clearly feels Dow is stepping into his territory as resident weirdo.

 

[existentialist]

gentlegreen clearly feels Dow is stepping into his territory as resident weirdo.

I think there's room for them both. Dow doesn't really trespass on gentlegreen's particular specialities at all...

 

[Maurice Picarda]

Would bachelor Dow's polymathic endeavours allow him enough time to beat Gentlegreen on domestic order and hygiene?

 

[gentlegreen]

Dow makes me feel quite sane.
I get similar benefits from hanging out in Paltalk's "Believers vs. Unbelievers"

 

[gentlegreen]

wtf?

He actually started a Masters in Engineering (I think) and is based in an oil town

 

[DotCommunist]

He actually started a Masters in Engineering (I think) and is based in an oil town

its not that GG I just don't like the 'why aint you got a job?' vibe I got from your post. Maybe I was reading it wrong but i didn't like it

 

[Citizen66]

Pull your socks up!

 

[killer b]

I think there's room for them both. Dow doesn't really trespass on gentlegreen's particular specialities at all...

tell that to GG. check those hackles.

 

[tommers]

Stay safe Peter. Hope it all gets sorted out.

 

[weltweit]

Will the Queen attend court to attest to the fact that she was offended by Peter Dow's online comments?

 

[gentlegreen]

its not that GG I just don't like the 'why aint you got a job?' vibe I got from your post. Maybe I was reading it wrong but i didn't like it

Nope. I meant exactly what I said.
I'm the same age as him and it was always pretty easy to get a decent job - even in my case with only a handful of O Levels.
I fully acknowledge the difficulties faced by the generations that followed.

He seems to think he's owed a living while he fights whatever it is he thinks he's fighting.

 

[Citizen66]

Scratch a hippy...

 

[gentlegreen]

Scratch a hippy...

I never said I was a hippy.

 

[joustmaster]

Kids will come from miles around if you put a sign in your window telling people not to bang on it, and then sound an airhorn if they do bang it.

Its almost like a performance art piece

 

[existentialist]

Will the Queen attend court to attest to the fact that she was offended by Peter Dow's online comments?

I don't think she has to be offended for an offence to be capable of being committed...

 

[existentialist]

I never said I was a hippy.

You don't have to! Quite a lot of people are happy to say it on your behalf, from the look of things

 

[DotCommunist]

he is owed a living. We all are. the reasons we don't have a citizen wage is because of the alleged sanctity of wage labour with its miraculous ability to make bossman richer.

 

[gentlegreen]

You don't have to! Quite a lot of people are happy to say it on your behalf, from the look of things

Well they would be wrong.
I'm 4 years off early retirement on a company pension accrued over 37 years.
My concerns are generally fairly non-controversial and my priority is just how soon I can get to the beach.

 

[weltweit]

.. Charge 3 - (and the only outstanding charge) "did behave in a threatening or abusive manner which was likely to cause a reasonable person to suffer fear or alarm in that you did post offensive, abusive and threatening messages about Her Majesty, the Queen on a social networking site; CONTRARY to Section 38(1) of the Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Act 2010" ..

Does said offence exist in England and Wales?

 

[Pickman's model]

Does said offence exist in England and Wales?

when an act refers to scotland it means it does not refer to england or wales.

 

[Pickman's model]

I never said I was a hippy.

you didn't need to.

 

[weltweit]

when an act refers to scotland it means it does not refer to england or wales.

Are you just saying that because the idea appeals to you or do you know for a fact that it is correct?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Best of luck, Peter Dow. lbj hopes Peter Dow is cleared of these ridiculous charges.

 

[Pickman's model]

Charge 2 - the next day in the Sheriff Court, charged by the prosecutor on petition of Andrew Shanks, Aberdeen area procurator fiscal - alleged contravention of the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012 - DROPPED

Charge 3 - (and the only outstanding charge) "did behave in a threatening or abusive manner which was likely to cause a reasonable person to suffer fear or alarm in that you did post offensive, abusive and threatening messages about Her Majesty, the Queen on a social networking site; CONTRARY to Section 38(1) of the Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Act 2010"

weltweit neither of these two acts has any force in english (or welsh) law. you can tell this by the cunning insertion of '(scotland)' in the acts' names.

 

[existentialist]

Are you just saying that because the idea appeals to you or do you know for a fact that it is correct?

There might be an equivalent Act in England and Wales, but - as Pickman's model says - the "(Scotland)" bit means that it is a specifically Scottish bit of legislation, and that particular Act will not apply elsewhere.

 

[weltweit]

weltweit neither of these two acts has any force in english (or welsh) law. you can tell this by the cunning insertion of '(scotland)' in the acts' names.

There might be an equivalent Act in England and Wales, but - as Pickman's model says - the "(Scotland)" bit means that it is a specifically Scottish bit of legislation, and that particular Act will not apply elsewhere.

So Dow is guilty then, what is the punishment?

 

[weltweit]

So Dow is guilty then, what is the punishment?

Blimey .... they don't write these things to be easy to comprehend ...
Execution seems possible

 

[littlebabyjesus]

So Dow is guilty then, what is the punishment?

weltweit thinks Peter Dow is guilty?

Does weltweit think that the queen was given reasonable cause to suffer fear or alarm by Peter Dow's tweets. lbj disagrees with weitweit. lbj thinks that the queen was caused no suffering at all by Peter Dow's tweets.

 

[weltweit]

weltweit thinks Peter Dow is guilty?

Does weltweit think that the queen was given reasonable cause to suffer fear or alarm by Peter Dow's tweets. lbj disagrees with weitweit. lbj thinks that the queen was caused no suffering at all by Peter Dow's tweets.

I don't know if Dow is guilty - I haven't seen his tweet(s) - but the legislation is pretty broad:

It does not have to be the Queen who feels "fear or alarm"

(b)the behaviour would be likely to cause a reasonable person to suffer fear or alarm, and

Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Act 2010