SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Or it'd made them the think they'd won, empowering them to escalate their shitty behaviour still further.
Pensioner arrested on suspicion of murder after a suspected burglar was stabbed to death.
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Or it'd made them the think they'd won, empowering them to escalate their shitty behaviour still further.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
IME, stuff doesn't work like that. If you actually completely deprive the other party of any engagement, it usually throws them into disarray. Sure, they'll try and put a brave face on it by claiming to have "won", but nobody's really convinced. If, on the other hand, the opposition does engage, and then either backs down or is forced into retreat, the other party does get to claim some kind of superiority.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
This^^^
All the Orange cunts want is a reaction. They're not marching because they like marching. They're marching because they like pissing people off.
That reminds me...
What's the difference between an apple and an orange?
Have you ever heard of an apple bastard?*
*outside of technology circles
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
No doubt the mail's Hero Pensioner Team of crack journalists will be following the removal van to the Hero Pensioner's new address. If I was a betting feller I'd be asking for a price on them revealing that address over the next week.
'I'm Alan Partridge and I'm standing outside the new home of ...'.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
According to reports they are currently living in a police safe house, in which case their stuff could just be going into storage for now, until they find a place of their own.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
It'll go into storage first. Then they'd have to be following x amount of removal vans leaving the storage facility for y amount of time.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
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coley
Well-Known Member
Aye fair point. I can still remember looking on with disbelief, at the arrogance of these people, I was 17 and had never seen anything like it, blokes dressed like London businessmen, dark suits,bowlers an all, wearing an orange sash carrying an umbrella in one hand but in the other a sword resting on the shoulder?
Ordinarily I would have laughed me cock off at the sight, but they marched with an ominous arrogance that removed any sense of humour.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
They're not normal people. They're a laughing stock, desperately clinging on to the red, white and blue that gives them a reason to live.
coley
Well-Known Member
Local low lifes have discovered if they claim to be in an 'ethnic minority' plod will be a tad wary of targeting them, hence Joe bloggs, who I went to school with, his da, who started 'doon the pit' my Da, suddenly finds that sticking a covered traditional caravan at the bottom of his garden and tethering a horse on public land suddenly makes him a genuine member of the traveller/gipsy community
coley
Well-Known Member
Can think of one large 'orange bastard'This^^^
All the Orange cunts want is a reaction. They're not marching because they like marching. They're marching because they like pissing people off.
That reminds me...
What's the difference between an apple and an orange?
Have you ever heard of an apple bastard?*
*outside of technology circles
coley
Well-Known Member
Aye, but I'm going back a few moons, hopefully those I watched those many years ago are all now in their unionist heaven
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Nothing has changed. It's still the same bitter old cunts doing the same bitter old shit.Aye, but I'm going back a few moons, hopefully those I watched those many years ago are all now in their unionist heaven
coley
Well-Known Member
Haven't really been following it but I doubt the orange marches of today are the same massive 'in yer face marches of the 70s'
And TBF the amount of genuine 'fear and hate' seems much less, seems things have largely settled down since the Republicans were bought out and neutralised.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
My bad. I didn't realise you were talking about the 70s. I'm really old, and even I don't remember them
coley
Well-Known Member
Cheeky sodMy bad. I didn't realise you were talking about the 70s. I'm really old, and even I don't remember them
Spell this out for me - so people from ethnic minorities are under-policed, and this would be clearly visible in (eg) stop and search data, one of the best means we have of understanding the use of frontline police discretion? (Ie, their “wariness” of targeting people who claim to be from an ethnic minority).
coley
Well-Known Member
Since the disgrace of the Stephen Lawrence investigation the plod have had to set themselves a higher bar when it comes to targeting ethnic minorities and they now think carefully before exercising their various powers.
Some around here, can't speak for other areas, have found it a useful tactic to self describe themselves as an 'ethnic minority' to, muddy the waters, when they are stopped/searched/arrested.
Obviously it doesn't work in the case of serious crimes, but they often get a 'pass' when it comes down to minor stuff, I.E. the local plod don't want the hassle when anti social behaviour is reported, unless it's in the 'leafy lane' areas.
So if people from ethnic minorities were, for example, vastly over-represented in police stop and search encounters, what would that suggest?
Given I’m off to bed...
Stop and search data: Stop and search - GOV.UK Ethnicity facts and figures
The Lammy Review’s statistical report (which picks up from the point of arrest): https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...639261/bame-disproportionality-in-the-cjs.pdf
If you do know anyone who’s following the strategy you describe, coley, probably best to let them know that all the best evidence suggests it’s a fucking appalling idea.
Edit: and chances are that where discretion is being used to under-report stop and search, as Coley notes, chances are it’s being used to make the figures look somewhat less appalling than they actually are.
Stop and search data: Stop and search - GOV.UK Ethnicity facts and figures
The Lammy Review’s statistical report (which picks up from the point of arrest): https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...639261/bame-disproportionality-in-the-cjs.pdf
If you do know anyone who’s following the strategy you describe, coley, probably best to let them know that all the best evidence suggests it’s a fucking appalling idea.
Edit: and chances are that where discretion is being used to under-report stop and search, as Coley notes, chances are it’s being used to make the figures look somewhat less appalling than they actually are.
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
coley
Well-Known Member
- in 2015/16, Durham was the only area where White people were more likely to be stopped and searched compared to Black people (they were 1.2 times more likely)
Can't find the figures for Northumbria
Point I was trying to make, as politically correctly as possible.
Around here, those making a living after dark will accuse plod of targeting them because they (supposedly)belong to the Gypsy/travelling community rather than plod stopping them because their transit had been reported as being seen near the site of a reported burglary!
As to the areas of policing which you obviously want to explore? I really can't comment, I live in a very rural community where murder and violence are extremely rare, even in our local towns and city's it's still rare, compared to London Birmingham etc.
coley
Well-Known Member
WTF? the pensioner in question is, in all reliable media reports, deeply traumatised by the events of that night, in hiding and in fear of reprisals from the dead burglars friends and family.
Yet we repeatedly get this picture of the bloke (BBC/DM) apparently quaffing a couple of pints of Guinness, in what appears to be a celebratory mood?...what gives?
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
Indeed - there must be other pictures of him that are more appropriate.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I'm sure there are. I'm also fairly sure this picture will have been chosen deliberately.
coley
Well-Known Member
Aye, in order to inflame certain groups and keep the story running, now that 'flowergate' has turned into a bit of a damp squib.
Could you give us the “not as politically correct as possible” version?
The rest of your post suggests almost complete ignorance about the way frontline policing / stop and search works, either officially or unofficially; or as described by police, described by the people they police, or described in the best evidence available (ie, nationally recorded datasets of all stops and searches).
If “those making a living after dark” are doing this, they’re complete morons. This would be a complete invitation to police to follow this up as hard as possible; it’s a failure of the attitude test, and if they’ve already been able to identify sufficient reasons for a stop check / stop and search, there’s almost no way that wouldn’t be progressing further. Sudden, urgent response calls aside.
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
How on earth would it inflame anyone? It's an awesome photo.
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