Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
My sister won’t have the jab 
Pandemic personal consequences
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prunus
Tick tock.
My sister won’t have the jab
Does she say why not?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Has heard people have had bad reactions to it. She’s a sucker for anything woo
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
I was a bit groggy and headachy for a day but if it's a choice between that and dying sign me the fuck up.
Supine
Newt Member
I'm sure parts of the press have been looking for people who had bad reactions. The number is astonishingly low though. I'm sure you know this. But how do you change someone's mind?
maomao
普費斯
My wife has spent the last year saying she doesn't want any new vaccine. Not conspiracy stuff but didn't want to be one of the first to have a relatively untested medicine. Then she got an invite, got really excited and had it straight away. Now she keeps boasting about how she's had it and I haven't.
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
My elderly mum still refuses to have it, infuriatingly, but has said that if she can't go on her bird watching coach trips without it or her Over 50s badminton she'll back down. So am kind of hoping for a hard line on vaccination from lots of UK businesses and organisations, especially those serving the elderly.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
I had forecast that would happen, at end of last year.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Aye, I’ve had it and had quite bad hay fever a few days later.
It was only for one afternoon, and it wasn’t COVID - but how do you persuade someone of the greater danger?
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
I'd be tempted to get a new lodger tbh but you are probably nicer than me.
For people who are not high risk its quite an ego driven decision. The calculation is that they are at low risk from covid therefore they are worried more about side effects than the virus.
It might be possible to make a herd immunity argument based on the importance of as many people as possible being vaccinated to save as many lives as possible when the next wave hits, which it definitely will,
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
My sis is quite high risk as she is immunocompromised
Boudicca
Seaside Queen
She's buying a house and hopefully will be on her way shortly, otherwise I think I probably would. Her replacement will not be a refusenik.
Sadly then she probably falls into the same category as the elderly people who won't have it. Its their choice but it doesn't mean to say an appeal to their better nature about other people will automatically fail.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I think you make full disclosure and put your friend in the picture, and let them decide.
But yes, I think if someone is living in a house with someone else, then the decision not to have the vaccine shouldn't be a casual one.
Johnny Doe
Well-Known Member
So they go in of their own accord?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
So they're fully in the picture as far as potential risks go. It may be that the lodger is refusing the vaccine, but is otherwise being very cautious about infection. Or not.
Johnny Doe
Well-Known Member
Really sorry, I know it's a serious topic, but I couldn't resist the gag
'My wife went to the West Indies
Jamaica?
No, she went of her own accord'
Boudicca
Seaside Queen
Potential risks on all sides are pretty low, but yes lodger is cautious about infection. The question is how much consideration should be given to this.
If he was coming just to stay with me, we wouldn't have to worry too much in the house about sharing the kitchen as I have been vaccinated. (Also I believe transmission is rare on surfaces, and my friend lives a quiet life and will have taken a test before leaving Jamaica.) Lodger was eligible for the vaccine before me as she works with the elderly. I really don't see why he should be banished to his room with a microwave because she is being a twat.
So as a very high risk person who has had allergic reactions to the pneumonia jab and carries an epipen for known allergies I was supposedly on the next group of high risk individuals but the allergy thing now means I would have to get the jab in a hospital.
My gp said I had to phone my consultant and have them arrange it for me. I phoned the consultant and they've not heard anything about that.
So...I've no idea what's going on ot what list I'm on at this stage.
The secterary said to go register on the hse portal.
I cant find anything on it that is not for health workers.
My gp said I had to phone my consultant and have them arrange it for me. I phoned the consultant and they've not heard anything about that.
So...I've no idea what's going on ot what list I'm on at this stage.
The secterary said to go register on the hse portal.
I cant find anything on it that is not for health workers.
miss direct
misfungled
Boudicca, I'm a bit confused (nothing new there.) I thought the vaccine just stopped the recipient from getting a nasty case of covid but doesn't prevent them from being positive and potentially passing it on. Im in a shared house and I know two (and probably the third as he's close to retirement age) of my housemates have had the jam. But I still keep my distance because I thought I was still at risk. Am I wrong? I mean even if your lodger had the vaccine, what difference would it make to your friend?
Boudicca
Seaside Queen
It's about relative risk.
If my friend turns up with covid and infects us both, my lodger is now much more likely to get sick than I am.
General etiquette in the house so far has been not to wear masks but to keep 2m apart when discussing life in the kitchen. We cook separately and mostly at different times. So if my friend was joining as a new lodger, then he would fall in with that routine. However, he is joining as someone travelling in from another country and doing quarantine so potentially higher risk.
I don't think that's the case or at least its certainly not a given. I believe there is some decent evidence to suggest that the vaccines will reduce the spread of infection as well as preventing deaths. Obviously not enough data yet and the usual stuff about different vaccines.
miss direct said:
I'm really glad you posted that Teaboy ...
The level of 'still transmitting to others even after being vaccinated' thing, remains pretty uncertain, until more research is done.
Or at least that's my impression from all the vaccine-related stuff I've read ... which is an over-obsessive big amount...
These are great questions anyway miss direct , IMO.
As I posted a while back in the Schools thread, everyone who's been vaccinated should surely remain very cautious about distancing and all the other precautions.
And (thinking aloud) not everyone living wth or spending any time near the vaccinated can afford to assume that they might not still be transmitting, until a lot more research is in.
Cloo
Banana for scale
Now we're planning for daughter's bat mitzvah in June it's all got very odd because it is the weekend after BoJo's alleged magic day of freedom for all (NB, I am not betting anything on it happening). We have decided we will go for having 30 people (basically immediate family + daughter's mates) round in In-law's garden for a catered lunch after synagogueas that should be allowed by mid May.. It may be we could have the world and his wife over by then, but that doesn't mean it would be wise to do so, plus I simply cannot cope with the stress of wondering if everything will have to be rearranged and people 'de-invited' at the last minute, so am sticking to the rules of what will allegedly by allowed by mid-May, which is not without risk. Was slightly worried all caterers would be booked up for that weekend, but the ones I contacted do have slots.
Also have the weird thing that, in order to include more people, we will want to do someone sort of online event in the week before because it'll probably only be immediate family at the synagogue on the Saturday so that still feels necessary, but it'll be odd to be doing it if everyone is wanting to be gallavanting all over the place that week. Still we could form people's Last Ever Zoom Celebration, I suppose.
Also have the weird thing that, in order to include more people, we will want to do someone sort of online event in the week before because it'll probably only be immediate family at the synagogue on the Saturday so that still feels necessary, but it'll be odd to be doing it if everyone is wanting to be gallavanting all over the place that week. Still we could form people's Last Ever Zoom Celebration, I suppose.
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