Oceangate's Titan. The Bayesian yacht. Why do the deaths of rich people matter more than poor people?
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stellaashtray
Active Member
Of course I don’t mean he made the money without the help of fellow colleagues & perhaps trodding on others along the way, my point was that he wasn’t born into wealth & came from a very humble background i.e wasn’t born into wealth
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
How does that qualify as a point?
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
Oh, all billionaires are definitely trodding. Trodding away like buggery, the lot of them.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
And while having socialist furniture
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Che's Longue
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
I am with Donne on this.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
No man should own an island?
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
Quite right:
Busy old fool, unruly sun,
Why dost thou thus,
Through windows, and through curtains call on us?
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
I think most people in this country find it easier to identify to identify with the people (and thus sympathise with) drowning on the yacht that those drowning on a migrant boat. It's easier to imagine themselves on the yacht than it is on the migrant boat.
If they thought about it then they would realise of course that finding themselves aboard a billionaire's yacht isn't any more likely than finding themselves aboard an overcrowded dinghy. But people like to imagine nice things happening to themselves rather than bad.
There's also the novelty factor here, it's not every day a billionaire drowns, the last large scale drowning of very rich people probably was the actual Titanic sinking. Migrants have drowned in large numbers in the Med and will continue to do so for the forseeable future. Everyone knows it happens it just isn't news. (perhaps it should be but it isn't)
If they thought about it then they would realise of course that finding themselves aboard a billionaire's yacht isn't any more likely than finding themselves aboard an overcrowded dinghy. But people like to imagine nice things happening to themselves rather than bad.
There's also the novelty factor here, it's not every day a billionaire drowns, the last large scale drowning of very rich people probably was the actual Titanic sinking. Migrants have drowned in large numbers in the Med and will continue to do so for the forseeable future. Everyone knows it happens it just isn't news. (perhaps it should be but it isn't)
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Sorry pal, didn't really get beyond that sentence; wow.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Why? do you think I'm wrong?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Not with that attitude
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Not wrong, but showing your arse
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Do you find the truth unpleasant? You're right but that doesn't change it. The majority of people in this country aren't emotionally invested in either the deaths of the migrants or Mike Lynch and his family. However the number that are 'interested' in the latter exceeds the number that are 'interested' in stories of lost migrant boats. And in this age of internet clicks this can actually be measured. If people keep clicking on stories about yacht sinkings then the news will keep producing them.
Calamity1971
If Mr Peanut says It's okay, then it is.
You haven't been watching the same channels as me then. Even when sky wasn't reporting on it the screen was split in two showing real time of the sea!
It even took precedence over the family murdered in a house fire in Bradford on today's news.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
I find it easier to imagine being on a migrant boat tbh
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Oh, ok, well that would have irritated me too.
As it is I tend to have R4 on in the background. They have provided updates, at least that is what I have caught.
JimW
支那暗杀团
Only the calenture together draws
Dear friends, which meet dead in great fishes' jaws;
And on the hatches, as on altars, lies
Each one, his own priest, and own sacrifice.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Really? I'm astonished that anyone would think that.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
The truth is that many more people don't have the wherewithal beyond their next pay and/or benefits cheque to distance themselves so completely from.the plight of migrants in boats. Most people aren't living comfortably. Most people are stretched to the limit of how to keep shelter, food and clothing. Most people aren't more interested in the plight of fucking Mike Lynch.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
I think most people do have enough to distance themselves from the plights of migrants. Even those in this country living hand to mouth in low paid jobs or on benefits are FAR better off than those aboard the dinghies. Worrying about paying the next electric bill isn't really in the same league as worrying about having your house bombed or your kids murdered.
As for Mike Lynch there is a difference between being interested and caring. I rather doubt anyone is going to bed and lying there thinking 'Oh God this is terrible'. Some may even be even thinking 'Serves the fucker right' but clearly people are interested in the story.
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PTK
Paul Kegan
Very Good! Gold medal to you.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Haha. Fuck him and fuck the yacht he sunk on.
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