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#occupy London....

300 people surrounding Birkenhead Crown court was an eye-opener

btw, COLC have voted to begin legal action to remove OLSX...
 
Er, no, that they could get 300 people there on a weekday, its clear there are new and in some cases strange new political formations growing in the vacuum
 
As predicted earlier here... http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/city-of-london-operation-poncho.212305/

They are spreading the scummy tactic of using water to prevent people sleeping...
'Soak protesters with sprinklers' to prevent another St Paul's siege
Sprinkler systems should be used to stop tent cities appearing across the capital in the wake of the anti-capitalist protest at St Paul's, the deputy mayor for policing said today.
Kit Malthouse, who chairs the Metropolitan Police Authority, has suggested using "high powered sprinklers" in Parliament Square to discourage activists from camping in public areas.
As the cathedral opened today for the first time in a week, Mr Malthouse said: "We do not want any more of these things springing up. There is a difference between protesters and people taking the opportunity to camp in a public space.
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tbh.. im failing to see the humour... they have now greenlighted operation poncho to pursue their persecution of 'homeless' people plus protesters....
 
not that it makes it right but westminister council and other cunt authorities have been wetting down places for years so homeless people can't sleep there.
if/when they do move in on any of the london camps they will have to be very very careful for it not to backfire bigtime
 
not nice when wet tho is it
they'll have high powered lighting and some sort of noise next to try and disturb their sleep
 
ddraig said:
not nice when wet tho is it
they'll have high powered lighting and some sort of noise next to try and disturb their sleep
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.... or leave the church bells ringing.

I will be curious to see what tactic is used to break up the camp, i think the unusually mild weather has surprised the authorities, i think they were expecting that to do part of the job for them.
 
This protest has taken on a life of its own. It was originally over what the banks have done to us, about how capitalism has become totally corrupt, about us being made to pay for their recklessness. Now that is being pushed aside as all the attention becomes focussed on the occupation itself, and the same is happening in Bristol. They have created a conflict where previously no conflict existed - the right to protest by occupying a public space. Before long, people are going to get fed up with them, feel they are overstaying their welcome. And then they will start to support the evictions when they originally supported the Occupation.

I supported them originally, because I saw it as creating a physical focal point for people who wanted to join in the campaign but not to camp - since we can't all camp. It was OK that it was a bit vague at first, because the campaign had only just started. But now, after two weeks, they have taken their eye completely off the ball and ruined what could have been a great opportunity.
 
Hi all...been down to FS tonight and this is a shout out to all of you that are thinking of visiting at some point over the weekend or the coming week.

Please, please, please do go and visit...take anything you can food etc (see website for wish list)...also take a good attitude and be willing to support the camps. They are within 15 minutes walk from eachother so you can visit both easily.

FS especially needs support as it is a bit over-looked because of the media storm with regards St Pauls, resignations and possible eviction.

If you have kids and are concerned that the camps are not kid friendly, please note that St Pauls is running a family day/kid activities tomorrow and I am running a pumpkin carving/mask painting workshop at FS at 2pm on Sunday, intergenerational, creative, relaxing! :D This will mean that you/your little ones will be entertained!

Both camps need volunteers, no amouont of time is too small. They are doing great things already but will very much appreciate any time, information and skills you have.
Support needed also includes simply going down there, hanging out, engaging with people, adding to the atmosphere of the camp. Everything has value! :)
 
Rutita1 said:
They are doing great things already
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Like what?
The support of the sparks was good but as Dolittle has pointed out above (and other posters have made similar points on other threads) the majority of effort seems to be simply going into maintaing the campsites.
 
redsquirrel said:
the majority of effort seems to be simply going into maintaing the campsites.
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Rubbish...or at least an ill thought out acussation.:facepalm:

When is the last time you brought x hundred diverse people together in a space ( now 2) with no facilities and tried to build a functioning/working community, built on consensus decision making at every step of the way and relying on donations and limited personal resources?

So...of course much of the past weeks has been spent on getting the camps, up, running, functioning, growing! Geez! Give them a break ffs! On top of those points above, factor in unwanted bad press, legal issues, random passer by issues, church pressure etc, negoiating with local businesses, accomadating the needs of many and planning what the next move is...a lot of people have worked hard already, are tired etc. OBVIOUSLY! But they are still there...people are coming and going...the system they are using is being tested but they are STILL there and stronger than when they started!

Actually, instead of moaning, get down there and pitch in...many hands, light work and all that. :)

If you see a 'lack' go and fill it!
 
Rubbish...or at least an ill thought out acussation.:facepalm:

When is the last time you brought x hundred diverse people together in a space ( now 2) with no facilities and tried to build a functioning/working community, built on consensus decision making at every step of the way?

So...of course much of the past weeks has been spent on getting the camps, up, running, functioning, growing! Geez! Give them a break ffs! On top of those points above, factor in unwanted bad press, legal issues, random passer by issues, church pressure etc, negoiating with local businesses, accomadating the needs of many and planning what the next move is...a lot of people have worked hard already, are tired etc. OBVIOUSLY!

Actually, instead of moaning, get down there and pitch in...many hands, light work and all that. :)


If you see a 'lack' go and fill it!
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Your post actually supports my "accusation", confirming that the vast majority of the effort is being put into setting up and maintaining the camp. That rather than using it as a springboard to conduct actions and achieve the small victories that a number of us have talked about the focus is now on simply ensuring the camp remains where it is.
 
the whole thing seems in danger of becoming an incredibly insular and self indulgent affair, inwards looking and somewhat sub-cultural

(yet any measured/reflective criticism of if is met with howls of indignant rage because those criticising it don't have the means or ability to spend 14 nights on the trot in a tent in central london)
 
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