New camera footage of Pentagon impact released!

[mauvais]

it was Rhodri wot done it

Oh yeah - it was him too. Disguised as a green diamond.

(For those too cowardly to venture alone into the Welsh forum, here's bin Morgan himself, posing it up at the training camp in Aberystwyth!)

 

[fela fan]

So all the eye witnesses - and blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer who was at the scene - were all lying because you know better, yes?

You know full well that all the eye-witnesses didn't say the same thing. You also know full well that many thought they'd heard and seen a missile, never mind the ones that saw a smaller 'commuter' type aircraft.

Selective memory disease again mate?

 

[Blagsta]

You know full well that all the eye-witnesses didn't say the same thing. You also know full well that many thought they'd heard and seen a missile, never mind the ones that saw a smaller 'commuter' type aircraft.

Selective memory disease again mate?

Its only you and your mad mates that "know full well".

 

[Structaural]

bit of photoshop jiggery and cropping

I've just blown up that section and put a large unsharp on it.
That could well be the front of a plane:

and before and after shots

 

[mauvais]

I've just blown up that section and put a large unsharp on it.
That could well be the front of a plane:

One indistinguishable white object...

...one clearly visible bright green miniature nuclear explosion.

 

[Col_Buendia]

...and there's green in the Welsh flag.

Hmmmmm...

 

[El Jugador]

I expect we'd have heard if someone was seen planting pieces of debris around the scene while the building was still burning - or is it actually being suggested that the Global Hawk (or whatever) had been previously painted in UA livery?

 

[Dandred]

And the camera from the petrol station that the fbi siezed within minutes?

I don't really care about the froot-loops here. But I would be happier to make up my own mind after seeing the shots from this camera.

 

[mauvais]

I expect we'd have heard if someone was seen planting pieces of debris around the scene while the building was still burning - or is it actually being suggested that the Global Hawk (or whatever) had been previously painted in UA livery?

Evil Diamond - let's call him Neil for simplicity - put 'em there to restore our conventional human-like "factual accuracy" ...and his own sick kicks, natch.

 

[Blagsta]

I don't really care about the froot-loops here. But I would be happier to make up my own mind after seeing the shots from this camera.

we don't even know if that camera exists or that the FBI seized it, we only have fela fan's word for it - and he's a nutter

 

[editor]

You know full well that all the eye-witnesses didn't say the same thing. You also know full well that many thought they'd heard and seen a missile, never mind the ones that saw a smaller 'commuter' type aircraft.

So how many eye witnesses emphatically say the saw a missile hit the Pentagon then, fela?

Could you list them all here, please and they we can do a comparisin with the list of people who clearly say they saw a 757.

Can you do that?

Then you might explain why Allyn E. Kilsheimer - who was at the scene - said he found body and plane parts. Any ideas, mate?

 

[Jazzz]

I expect we'd have heard if someone was seen planting pieces of debris around the scene while the building was still burning - or is it actually being suggested that the Global Hawk (or whatever) had been previously painted in UA livery?

It would have been very easy to plant something like that. Nor is your suggestion something to rule out. Besides the curvature on the lettering appears small and the piece of metal is remarkably unsinged.

 

[editor]

I expect we'd have heard if someone was seen planting pieces of debris around the scene while the building was still burning - or is it actually being suggested that the Global Hawk (or whatever) had been previously painted in UA livery?

No, the UA airline parts were buried under the lawn and on impact, pre-programmed rabbits burrowed them up on the lawn, right on cue.

At the same time, a special hallucinogenic gas was released leading those on the scene to think they were seeing body parts, bits of uniform and plane parts.

 

[editor]

It would have been very easy to plant something like that. Nor is your suggestion something to rule out. Besides the curvature on the lettering appears small and the piece of metal is remarkably unsinged.

Really? Please explain how that might be achieved because I'd say people walking about with big chunks of plane might just catch the eye of onlookers.

Or perhaps it was the work of those amazing invisible operatives you're always going on about.

Oh,and what about the guy who said he saw body parts and plane wreckage?

 

[Dandred]

we don't even know if that camera exists or that the FBI seized it, we only have fela fan's word for it - and he's a nutter

How do you know it's only his word. (I've seen this mentioned by many loopies, still doesn't answer where the tapes are.)

Is the a petrol station with cameras looking in that direction? Yes.

Where are the tapes.

If you watch a few of the loopy vids you can see the station and the view of the camera that points to the place the plane crashed. I would just like to see the footage.

 

[jæd]

Alright, I am the messiah! Now please! Go Away!

You're not the messiah...! ...

 

[Blagsta]

It would have been very easy to plant something like that.

yeah and there's secret cameras in your house watching your every move as well, and secret messages from the TV and mind rays controlling you from the electric sockets

 

[jæd]

Really? Please explain how that might be achieved because I'd say people walking about with big chunks of plane might just catch the eye of onlookers.

Or perhaps it was the work of those amazing invisible operatives you're always going on about.

If they crashed a plane into the side of the Pentagon, that would've distracted people from the operatives...

 

[Blagsta]

How do you know it's only his word. (I've seen this mentioned by many loopies, still doesn't answer where the tapes are.)

'cos he provides no source for his assertions

Is the a petrol station with cameras looking in that direction? Yes.

How do you know? You been there?

 

[jæd]

No, the UA airline parts were buried under the lawn and on impact, pre-programmed rabbits burrowed them up on the lawn, right on cue.

At the same time, a special hallucinogenic gas was released leading those on the scene to think they were seeing body parts, bits of uniform and plane parts.

Nope... Giant ickle-cute hedgehogs were involved -- "pre-programmed" rabbits is just silly...

 

[free spirit]

"Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C."

Y'see editor, this is where the likes of you just don't get it. He was the first (professional) to arrive at the scene. Yet he says "it was absolutely a plane". That very choice of language indicates that folk were questioning whether it was a plane or not. It had just happened, yet here is a man rebutting conspiracy theorists!!!!

If you could get past your self-delusion, you'd see it doesn't add up. Your call.

but fela fan... do you know what the question was that he was responding to? could it have been something along the lines of...

>>>'did you see it, was it a plane? are you sure it was a plane not a bomb?'

answer>>> 'it was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why...'

if you don't know the context you can have no idea why the guy phrased his response like he did... therefore you can draw no conclusions that have any validity so why the fuck do you keep refering to this as if it's ironclad proof of a conspiracy?

 

[Jazzz]

For size comparisons, here's a car. I don't know about you but I would guess cars look pretty small when placed next to Boeing 757s

 

[Blagsta]

I'm reminded of the bit in Father Ted with the "these cows are small, those are far away" sketch

 

[Dandred]

What are jet engines made from?

What is the melting temp? What temp does jet fuel burn at?

Where are the engines from the crashes?

 

[Blagsta]

What are jet engines made from?

Jellybabies

What is the melting temp?

Melt in your mouth, not your hand (or is that Minstrels?)

What temp does jet fuel burn at?

"fucking bastard hot" is the technical term

Where are the engines from the crashes?

up Jazzz's arse probably

 

[editor]

What are jet engines made from?

What is the melting temp? What temp does jet fuel burn at?

Where are the engines from the crashes?

I suggest you look at the video footage I posted up ages ago showing a fighter jet vapourising as it hit a concrete wall at high speed.

I believe that might answer your questions.

 

[Dandred]

How do you know? You been there?

No, only seen pics on vid...

I undersatnd you point, but did maradona use his hand? Did you see it? were you there?

 

[Blagsta]

fuck knows, I know nowt about football

 

[Dandred]

I suggest you look at the video footage I posted up ages ago showing a fighter jet vapourising as it hit a concrete wall at high speed.

I believe that might answer your questions.

Can you give a link please.. or a hint as what to seach for? Seach seem very poor here.

 

[Dandred]

fuck knows, I know nowt about football

But you do know about loopies?