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Watched Dune last night. I'd held off from watching it due to having loved the book as a child, and having been Stung by the previous adaptation.

This one is fantastic. And part 2 has just come out!
 
Watched Dune last night. I'd held off from watching it due to having loved the book as a child, and having been Stung by the previous adaptation.
I Loved it as a child but also quite liked Lynch's film when it came out. . . on rewatching though, I found it far more dull than I remembered.
This one is fantastic. And part 2 has just come out!
I was disinterested in the new film. I saw trailers and thought it looked as dull as dishwater.
I eventually watched it on a plane last year and immediately regretted not seeing it on the big screen (something that only once before happened when I saw Blade Runner 2).
When I saw it was on Netflix I was eager for my family to see it with me, and to watch it on a 'slightly' bigger TV screen. . . . though sadly on the re-watch it somehow really lost something, I just wasn't really into it. All the witchy stuff and premonitions / destiny started to really grate on me. The fast / slow development of combat strategy began to make less sense as I considered it.
 
I started watching Spaceman at lunchtime - I was just going to do 20mins of it to see if it was any good, although I wasn't very hopeful... I LOVED IT!!!!

Sci-fi romance with alien space spider who falls in love with hazelnut spread and is comforted by toilet sucker noise. :D I shed a tear or two! :hmm::eek:. It's quirky and endearing... But also philosophical and interesting.

Might read the book at some point, what a story! (Spaceman of Bohemia by Jaroslav Kalfař). From wikipedia
Spaceman is a 2024 American science fiction drama film directed by Johan Renck and written by Colby Day. It is based on the 2017 novel Spaceman of Bohemia by Jaroslav Kalfař. Starring Adam Sandler, Carey Mulligan, Kunal Nayyar, Isabella Rossellini and Paul Dano, it follows an astronaut sent on a mission to the edge of the solar system who encounters a creature that helps him put his earthly problems back together.
p.s. directed by Chernobyl director: Johan Renck.

It brought back memories of Solaris... Probably the plants swaying in the water at the start/end... Probably a nod to it, I should think.
 
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We watched Spaceman yesterday. It’s a drama set in space revolving around relationships but also with sci-fi/ fantasy themes.

I wouldn’t outright recommend it, but neither would I rubbish it. I loved the concept of it, and ultimately I felt it could have been a lot better, but we enjoyed it nonetheless because it’s original and mad as fuck :D

Also, I have often expressed my opinion in this forum that Adam Sandler is a massively overrated comedy actor and most of the films he’s had a creative hand in have been crap and weird. But he has been an excellent actor in the the few dramatic roles I’ve seen him in, and he’s again very good in this.

Overall I would say watch it, but be prepared for a very weird ride, and don’t blame me if you think it’s utter shit.
 
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We watched Spaceman yesterday. It’s a drama set in space revolving around relationships but also with sci-fi/ fantasy themes.

I wouldn’t outright recommend it, but neither would I rubbish it. I loved the concept of it, and ultimately I'm felt it could have been a lot better, but we enjoyed it nonetheless because it’s original and mad as fuck :D

Also, I have often expressed my opinion in this forum that Adam Sandler is a massively overrated comedy actor and most of the films he’s had a creative hand in have been crap and weird. But he has been an excellent actor in the the few dramatic roles I’ve seen him in, and he’s again very good in this.

Overall I would say watch it, but be prepared for a very weird ride, and don’t blame me if you think it’s utter shit.
I watched it last night and largely agree with this - I typically don't go for the "lone person in space" type sci-fi, but this was a bit different.
I liked it, I think some might find it ridiculous.
 
Apparently the first cut was finished in 2020 but the test screening feedback was so bad they’ve spent three years making post production changes.
 
We watched Spaceman yesterday. It’s a drama set in space revolving around relationships but also with sci-fi/ fantasy themes.

Also, I have often expressed my opinion in this forum that Adam Sandler is a massively overrated comedy actor and most of the films he’s had a creative hand in have been crap and weird. But he has been an excellent actor in the the few dramatic roles I’ve seen him in, and he’s again very good in this.
He is crazy overatted for his one note comedy stylings. Quite weird when he is obviously capable of more as a serious actor.
Have you seen his SNL work? It's embarrassingly off the scale cringe level bad but was somehow incredibly popular. I just can't understand how anyone could watch him work as a comedian and go "Yeah, let's give that guy millions of dollars and some films".
Overall I would say watch it, but be prepared for a very weird ride, and don’t blame me if you think it’s utter shit.
I started watching it last night just to have on the background while I shifted around some files on my computer, but quite quickly decided that I wanted to engage with it properly so turned it off to save for later. I am looking forward to it.
I think all the people saying they hate the slow pace and psychological blah blah probably came for 'Sandler goofs around in space' . . . I for one am very glad that that is not.
 
He is crazy overatted for his one note comedy stylings. Quite weird when he is obviously capable of more as a serious actor.
Have you seen his SNL work? It's embarrassingly off the scale cringe level bad but was somehow incredibly popular. I just can't understand how anyone could watch him work as a comedian and go "Yeah, let's give that guy millions of dollars and some films".

I started watching it last night just to have on the background while I shifted around some files on my computer, but quite quickly decided that I wanted to engage with it properly so turned it off to save for later. I am looking forward to it.
I think all the people saying they hate the slow pace and psychological blah blah probably came for 'Sandler goofs around in space' . . . I for one am very glad that that is not.
Oh he's absolutely great in it, if he blows a few expectations out of the water then that's well deserved for this performance.
And yeah because it is quite introspective and quiet thoughtful dialogue type thing, it's more of a concentrate on it rather than have it on in the background thing
(And that comes from me who watches a lot of stuff on in the background).
 
He is crazy overatted for his one note comedy stylings. Quite weird when he is obviously capable of more as a serious actor.
Have you seen his SNL work? It's embarrassingly off the scale cringe level bad but was somehow incredibly popular. I just can't understand how anyone could watch him work as a comedian and go "Yeah, let's give that guy millions of dollars and some films".

I started watching it last night just to have on the background while I shifted around some files on my computer, but quite quickly decided that I wanted to engage with it properly so turned it off to save for later. I am looking forward to it.
I think all the people saying they hate the slow pace and psychological blah blah probably came for 'Sandler goofs around in space' . . . I for one am very glad that that is not.
I am guessing you stopped watching before something highly peculiar happens? That changes the entire dynamic of the film…
 
I watched it last night and largely agree with this - I typically don't go for the "lone person in space" type sci-fi, but this was a bit different.
I liked it, I think some might find it ridiculous.
One thing that did irk me from the start though was the instant faster than light communication with earth. Firstly this is either impossible or time paradoxes would be possible (seeing the future, altering the past). Secondly, without that delay, the loneliness / isolation aspect is less of an issue. He can connect with the whole world in real time. That's really not so bad. . . . but I still have to see the whole movie so let's see.
 
One thing that did irk me from the start though was the instant faster than light communication with earth. Firstly this is either impossible or time paradoxes would be possible (seeing the future, altering the past). Secondly, without that delay, the loneliness / isolation aspect is less of an issue. He can connect with the whole world in real time. That's really not so bad. . . . but I still have to see the whole movie so let's see.
They handwave that as due to new light-speed communication technology (typically IRL a signal would take around 30 minutes to reach Earth from where he was supposed to be I think) - yeah dubious but also he's got out past Jupiter in the space of 6 months.
 
Watched The Outfit last night. I quite liked it though it didn't quite match up to its promise. Rylance is good; supporting actors are a bit meh.

The ending is pretty clumsy though.
 
It's hard to say at this point. I got up to the spider getting his name. Don't tell me any more.
I won’t. As I ssid earlier it’s a highly flawed film, but not without its merits.

What did you mean by Sandler’s SLN work, by the way? He has annoyed me in almost every film I’ve seen him in, but his Oscar-nominated performance in Uncut Gems, one of the very few dramatic roles he’s played, was certainly orders of magnitude better than his usual repertoire.
 
They handwave that as due to new light-speed communication technology (typically IRL a signal would take around 30 minutes to reach Earth from where he was supposed to be I think) - yeah dubious but also he's got out past Jupiter in the space of 6 months.
See Ursula Le Guin's 'ansible' for such device. I have just read The Dispossessed so it was fresh in my mind!

Just see that Spaceman is number 2 in Films, so it's doing well. Good, bc I really liked it, as mentioned before 😎
 
Live communications in space films and TV series have often required an extra dose of suspension of disbelief. I guess it’s such a roadblock to scriptwriting most writers pretend there’s no plot hole there.
 
I won’t. As I ssid earlier it’s a highly flawed film, but not without its merits.

What did you mean by Sandler’s SLN work, by the way? He has annoyed me in almost every film I’ve seen him in, but his Oscar-nominated performance in Uncut Gems, one of the very few dramatic roles he’s played, was certainly orders of magnitude better than his usual repertoire.
Saturday Night Live. The show that launched pretty much all the launched all the comedy movie big hitters. A large amount of film premises themselves started out as SNL sketches.
I wasn't being a jerk with the acronym, it's mostly known as SNL.
 
Live communications in space films and TV series have often required an extra dose of suspension of disbelief. I guess it’s such a roadblock to scriptwriting most writers pretend there’s no plot hole there.
I understand that, and even with the 'oh hey handwave' it ruins the isolation of the character a bit.
They handwave that as due to new light-speed communication technology (typically IRL a signal would take around 30 minutes to reach Earth from where he was supposed to be I think) - yeah dubious but also he's got out past Jupiter in the space of 6 months.
43 minutes at light speed, which I think would have been enough to aid the feeling of isolation. . . I didn't get far in, but it didn't seem desperately important to the script or flow of the film to make it instantaneous.
The implications of faster than light communication would be a whole mindbending film in itself. It's quite hard to ignore.
 
I understand that, and even with the 'oh hey handwave' it ruins the isolation of the character a bit.

43 minutes at light speed, which I think would have been enough to aid the feeling of isolation. . . I didn't get far in, but it didn't seem desperately important to the script or flow of the film to make it instantaneous.
The implications of faster than light communication would be a whole mindbending film in itself. It's quite hard to ignore.
I'm not going to spoil anything for you, but I just want to say it isn't a technology issue that feeds into his feelings of isolation, just watch the film :D
 
It's science fiction, not science fact 😁

Also, we don't yet know whether such device is feasible... Going to the moon would have been unthinkable not that long so.
 
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It's science fiction, not science fact 😁
If my sci-fi isn't frivolous fluff then I don't want it to break fundamental rules. I don't give two shits about guardians of the galaxy or star wars / trek doing it.
Also, we don't yet know whether such device is feasible... Going to the moon would have been unthinkable not that long so.
It's not about it being feasible. . . if faster than light communication is possible the implications would be so insane that nothing else in any movie that involves such a thing would matter. You could literally see into the future and then tell the present to do something different so that the future that you witnessed didn't happen, which can't happen because you could not have then sent the message to alter the future.
 
How would you see into their future if you're not on planet earth to witness it? 🔮

After just watching Openheimer and how they thought nuclear fission was impossible I'm again reminded that "impossible" often means "we don't fully understand it at this moment in time".

We have gone from letters to text (snail mail to instant) in a very short time.

Personally I don't think humans will live long enough to achieve intergalactic space travel anyway. And Spaceman wasn't even going very far away. So to me all of Sci fi is far fetched. But that's another story.
 
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If my sci-fi isn't frivolous fluff then I don't want it to break fundamental rules. I don't give two shits about guardians of the galaxy or star wars / trek doing it.

It's not about it being feasible. . . if faster than light communication is possible the implications would be so insane that nothing else in any movie that involves such a thing would matter. You could literally see into the future and then tell the present to do something different so that the future that you witnessed didn't happen, which can't happen because you could not have then sent the message to alter the future.
OMG.

If that is seriously going to ruin a poignant film that sensitively explores relationships and opening up of ones thoughts to others, then don't bother watching it.
I think you might have missed the point if you think that is important to this film.
It's not some sort of realistic internal logic sci-fi, it's more about connections and relationships and communication between individuals
 
Sorry if that was a bit terse btw.
The film is only 107 minutes long.
On average, it takes me 5-10 minutes to consider and post a thoughtful response about a film, and I've made 5 posts - so that could be 50 minutes of my time explaining why I think you might want to watch a film that is only 107 minutes long.
You could just, I don't know, watch it and see whether you like it. I can't predict what you will like :D
 
I think you are over reacting.
If that is seriously going to ruin a poignant film that sensitively explores relationships and opening up of ones thoughts to others, then don't bother watching it.
I think you might have missed the point if you think that is important to this film.
I think it was very important for three reasons. Isolation, atmosphere and realism. It would have also added another interesting dimension to the disconnect between earth and the lone cosmonaut in space. I think it would have improved the film overall.
I don't think I missed the point at all.
As I said, if it was spaceballs I wouldn't have minded, but this was a much more thoughtful movie.
It's not some sort of realistic internal logic sci-fi,
It kind of was though. . .
it's more about connections and relationships and communication between individuals
There was no point in the plot where instant communication aided anything about the themes you mention. . . . in fact I think it ruined the feeling of isolation. They actually had to invent a reason for the communications to fail for a while to give them space alone to talk. A reason they could have just had with a hours delay between information relay.

I liked the atmosphere and I liked the music. I liked the spider chats and his voice. I liked the (relatively speaking) small stakes of it just being about the guys relationship.
I wasn't so happy about it being an almost positive ending, I would have preferred it to be about totally letting go.

I think ultimately it was only half way there for me, I would have liked deeper thoughtful musings and better conclusion. I did give it a netflix thumbs up though, as I would like to see more things like this rather than bang pow splat.


Good music.
 
I think you are over reacting.

I think it was very important for three reasons. Isolation, atmosphere and realism. It would have also added another interesting dimension to the disconnect between earth and the lone cosmonaut in space. I think it would have improved the film overall.
I don't think I missed the point at all.
As I said, if it was spaceballs I wouldn't have minded, but this was a much more thoughtful movie.

It kind of was though. . .

There was no point in the plot where instant communication aided anything about the themes you mention. . . . in fact I think it ruined the feeling of isolation. They actually had to invent a reason for the communications to fail for a while to give them space alone to talk. A reason they could have just had with a hours delay between information relay.

I liked the atmosphere and I liked the music. I liked the spider chats and his voice. I liked the (relatively speaking) small stakes of it just being about the guys relationship.
I wasn't so happy about it being an almost positive ending, I would have preferred it to be about totally letting go.

I think ultimately it was only half way there for me, I would have liked deeper thoughtful musings and better conclusion. I did give it a netflix thumbs up though, as I would like to see more things like this rather than bang pow splat.


Good music.

Have you actually watched it yet?

Communications didn't fail for a technology reason, they failed because his wife told him she was leaving him and the base command people didn't transmit it to spare him the pain, which then left him wondering why she hadn't been in contact. Yes I have had to go into spoiler territory because you've either seen it and misunderstood the plot, or you've made assumptions based on the 10 minutes of it you've seen and want to argue about it, when you are wrong!
 
Have you actually watched it yet?
Yes.
Communications didn't fail for a technology reason, they failed because his wife told him she was leaving him and the base command people didn't transmit it to spare him the pain, which then left him wondering why she hadn't been in contact. Yes I have had to go into spoiler territory because you've either seen it and misunderstood the plot, or you've made assumptions based on the 10 minutes of it you've seen and want to argue about it, when you are wrong!
No. That was separate and never explained outright as a 'communications issue'. He was still in contact with earth when they were telling him they didn't know why his wife could not respond. The communications later failed (something to do with the particles) and he had to fix / work around them during intense spider conversation periods.
 
Yes.

No. That was separate and never explained outright as a 'communications issue'. He was still in contact with earth when they were telling him they didn't know why his wife could not respond. The communications later failed (something to do with the particles) and he had to fix / work around them during intense spider conversation periods.
There was a whole scene where base command were discussing whether to allow the message to be transmitted as his wife saying she was leaving him could be hugely demoralising and jeopardise the mission (no shit!), which resulted in the command that it must not go out to him. His wife then was uncontactable by her own volition.
Maybe we were watching different films. :confused:
 
The point I am trying to make and I think the film was trying to make is about the communication breakdown and difficulties within a marriage/relationship, NOT about whether x type of communication across space is technologically feasible or logical or consistent - because that is an allegory of interpersonal communication within a close relationship, which is not always logical or consistent.
 
If my sci-fi isn't frivolous fluff then I don't want it to break fundamental rules. I don't give two shits about guardians of the galaxy or star wars / trek doing it.

It's not about it being feasible. . . if faster than light communication is possible the implications would be so insane that nothing else in any movie that involves such a thing would matter. You could literally see into the future and then tell the present to do something different so that the future that you witnessed didn't happen, which can't happen because you could not have then sent the message to alter the future.
Also, I just remembered - not applicable in this case as he's only near Saturn iirc - but it's not the space traveller who'd see into the future. If you travel far away to another galaxies, when you come back it's the people on Earth who are older - not you. Still irrelevant in this scenario, as these are messages - but interesting nonetheless. As I think your 'seeing into the future' line up there is an impossibility.

I heard that time dilation affects high-speed space travel and I am wondering the magnitude of that affect. If we were to launch a round-trip flight to a nearby exoplanet—let's say 10 or 50 light-years away––how would that affect time for humans on the spaceship versus humans on Earth? When the space travelers came back, will they be much younger or older relative to people who stayed on Earth? —Serge

Time dilation is a concept that pops up in lots of sci-fi, including Orson Scott Card’s Ender’s Game, where one character ages only eight years in space while 50 years pass on Earth. This is precisely the scenario outlined in the famous thought experiment the Twin Paradox: an astronaut with an identical twin at mission control makes a journey into space on a high-speed rocket and returns home to find that the twin has aged faster.

Time dilation goes back to Einstein’s theory of special relativity, which teaches us that motion through space actually creates alterations in the flow of time. The faster you move through the three dimensions that define physical space, the more slowly you’re moving through the fourth dimension, time––at least relative to another object. Time is measured differently for the twin who moved through space and the twin who stayed on Earth. The clock in motion will tick more slowly than the clocks we’re watching on Earth. If you’re able to travel near the speed of light, the effects are much more pronounced.

Unlike the Twin Paradox, time dilation isn’t a thought experiment or a hypothetical concept––it’s real. The 1971 Hafele-Keating experiments proved as much, when two atomic clocks were flown on planes traveling in opposite directions. The relative motion actually had a measurable impact and created a time difference between the two clocks. This has also been confirmed in other physics experiments (e.g., fast-moving muon particles take longer to decay).

So in your question, an astronaut returning from a space journey at “relativistic speeds” (where the effects of relativity start to manifest—generally at least one-tenth the speed of light) would, upon return, be younger than same-age friends and family who stayed on Earth. Exactly how much younger depends on exactly how fast the spacecraft had been moving and accelerating, so it’s not something we can readily answer. But if you’re trying to reach an exoplanet 10 to 50 light-years away and still make it home before you yourself die of old age, you’d have to be moving at close to light speed.

There’s another wrinkle here worth mentioning: time dilation as a result of gravitational effects. You might have seen Christopher Nolan’s movie Interstellar, where the close proximity of a black hole causes time on another planet to slow down tremendously (one hour on that planet is seven Earth years).

This form of time dilation is also real, and it’s because in Einstein’s theory of general relativity, gravity can bend spacetime, and therefore time itself. The closer the clock is to the source of gravitation, the slower time passes; the farther away the clock is from gravity, the faster time will pass. (We can save the details of that explanation for a future Airlock.)


p.s. I also like my serious sci fi to be at least theoretically possible one day - and these FTL communications devices are all over sci-fi... Ansible - Wikipedia
But like I said, I don't think human civilization will be around long enough to figure out whether it's possible or not. ;)
 
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