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myers briggs - what are you ?

I've done this thing so many times, including paid for by my companies a few times. And it's different every time. The one constant had previously been a very strong N, which is why I put XNXX. But I just did it again because what the hell and lo and behold, it came out this time with a dominant trait of S and everything else being near the middle.

Every time I read a profile, I think "that's true, that isn't true, that applies to everyone".

Truth is that I don't think the preferences are mutually opposite, which they would need to be to make this work. I don't see that somebody couldn't be highly T and highly F at the same time, or low on both at the same time.

And people are very adaptable; they will change considerably depending on circumstance and depending on the group they are in. I don't think you can answer any of these questions universally for your life.
 
IXXX like kabbes I vary every time I've taken the test, except for introvert.

Had a margeson mcann test for my current job too and got a split wheel which is not usual, less than 5% of the population so the woman who analysed the tests told me. Non Neuro typical ftw!
 
Famous INTJs :-

Vladimir Putin
Paul Krugman
Rudy Giuliani
Donald Rumsfeld
Colin Powell
Samantha Power
Lance Armstrong
Richard Gere
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Thomas Jefferson
John F. Kennedy
Woodrow Wilson
Augustus Caesar
Hannibal

:hmm:

Maybe time for a retest.

I always score way up the aspie scale on tests, but I've met quite a few aspies and don't recognise myself.
 
I'm prepared to accept that lengthy, professional versions of the test might be more likely to return consistent findings over time for the same person than noddy free Internet ones. So if the test was always done "properly" you might perhaps settle on whichever flattering character sketch best fits the way you answer the questions.

But it's still pseudoscientific claptrap of no use to man nor HR beast.
 
Maurice Picarda said:
I'm prepared to accept that lengthy, professional versions of the test might be more likely to return consistent findings over time for the same person than noddy free Internet ones. So if the test was always done "properly" you might perhaps settle on whichever flattering character sketch best fits the way you answer the questions.

But it's still pseudoscientific claptrap of no use to man nor HR beast.
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Aw. Are you really telling me that humanity can't be usefully divided into 16 buckets in which identical profiles are shared by approximately 500,000,000 people each? Next you'll be questioning star signs as a valid character profiling device.
 
kabbes said:
Aw. Are you really telling me that humanity can't be usefully divided into 16 buckets in which identical profiles are shared by approximately 500,000,000 people each? Next you'll be questioning star signs as a valid character profiling device.
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It's a matter of what you grow up with. The HR team where I cut my teeth had an in-house haruspex and I'm deeply suspicious of any human capital segmentation tool which doesn't involve the entrails of cattle.
 
Maurice Picarda said:
It's a matter of what you grow up with. The HR team where I cut my teeth had an in-house haruspex and I'm deeply suspicious of any human capital segmentation tool which doesn't involve the entrails of cattle.
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"This one talks a lot of tripe"
 
I was kicked off of eHarmony for being untestable.
More likely because I'm atheist and left wing.
Their interminable questionnaire looks like Scientology - the people in their adverts seem full-on psycho.
 
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I started reading the thread, but it turns out I can't be bothered. I'm hoping we're all agreed that it's a load of bollocks and that anyone who says otherwise is a dangerous charlatan of the kind that deserves fury rather than ridicule.
 
TikkiB said:
I was an ENTP when I did it a couple of years ago as part of a training course at work. Part of me thinks that these things do work like horoscopes - you recognise yourself in every thing but I did find it useful as a way of establishing a good working relationship with one of my colleagues. Initially we didn't get on at all, I got really annoyed at her attitude to various things and found subsequently it was mutual. Once we'd both been Myers-briggsed and our results established how different we were, we were able to discuss our (very) different ways of working objectively without either of us taking it personally. It made a massive difference to the way we worked together because we could play to each other's strengths rather than feeling tacitly judged and criticised.

The best bit though was the fact that I was practically the only ENTP in the organisation, and only one of a handful of Ts - I felt like a unicorn. :D
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I think this was the purpose of the tests we did. we have several people who conflict and this way it removes some of the personal aspect from the confrontations.

similarly with the CMMI assessment it was used to highlight the stuff we already knew wasnt working well in a ay that didnt single out areas or individuals
 
Pingu, is the CMMI freely available online, or are there elements of the model that are proprietary? I'm trying to build a maturity model for something and I gather that the CMMI is the daddy in this regard.
 
Maurice Picarda said:
Pingu, is the CMMI freely available online, or are there elements of the model that are proprietary? I'm trying to build a maturity model for something and I gather that the CMMI is the daddy in this regard.
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i am sure elements are available online for free - i just provided input to our assesment.
I am not a fan of CMMI. i find organisations that look at CMMI "seriously" tend to process themselves int a corner and become unweildy and process bound (IBM being a case in point). however if its used with a dollop of common sense and treated as a framework rather than a mantra I am sure it can be beneficial
 
My organisation is in the process of shoehorning dozens of current staff into the SFIA framework.
Quite a few higher-ups chose to leave, some at the bottom are getting seriously pissed off as they've messed around to make sure no one needs re-grading ...

I have managed in over 30 years to only have a few appraisal interviews because I always struggled to detail my roles and responsibilities.

My new SFIA job description is so abstract, all I recognise is "manual handling" and "working at heights" - the "VDU" bit is as comical as ever ...

I'm very relieved that I only have about another 5 years to go.

Responsibilities and skills — SFIA
    1. To provide generic levels of responsibility, with descriptions at each of the seven levels for the following attributes: AUTONOMY · INFLUENCE · COMPLEXITY · BUSINESS SKILLS
    2. To reflect experience and competency levels within SFIA. The definitions describe the behaviours, values, knowledge and characteristics that an individual should have in order to be identified as competent at that level. Each level has a guiding word or phrase that acts as a brief indicator: FOLLOW · ASSIST · APPLY · ENABLE · ENSURE, ADVISE · INITIATE, INFLUENCE · SET STRATEGY, INSPIRE, MOBILISE
 
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The first question in the test posted in the OP annoyed me so fucking much, I'm still stewing on it the next day. These questions are so presumptious.
 
ENTP. Although I originally came out as I something but the woman doing said it was wrong and I didn't especially agree with it either.
 
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