my zen training - 100 days of meditation
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iswhatitis
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im not going to bother reading multipages of twaddle, but i will say...
nice one jazzz.
30+ days of making the time, is an acheivement. i should meditate more, i can feel the lack, the irritation, the petulance, the piss-and-vinegar side of myself rising and rising, but still its hard to get back on the bus. and once i do get back to some sense of peace and balance, focus shifts, and i dont make the time, and it all ebbs away again.
nice one jazzz.
30+ days of making the time, is an acheivement. i should meditate more, i can feel the lack, the irritation, the petulance, the piss-and-vinegar side of myself rising and rising, but still its hard to get back on the bus. and once i do get back to some sense of peace and balance, focus shifts, and i dont make the time, and it all ebbs away again.
thanks iswhatis. this is what has been great about having the challenge and the structure, this has really helped me do it daily.
You say 'on the bus' as referring to the sitting. How about seeing it as 'off the bus'?
i cant meditate cos i cant concentrate but i believe it is some thing that people find beneficial.
like reading alex comfort enit jazz
like reading alex comfort enit jazz
oh, must one be physically fit to meditate?
This is not my understanding of what meditation is. By concentrating, one is still under the cosh of the mind. The mind holds the cards, so to speak. I would think that concentrating will block meditation from happening, and therefore you'd be in the driving seat.
hehe i cant concentrate so that counts me out!!
Not at all. I am saying if your mind races, all the more reason to meditate, just as if you were unfit, all the more reason to exercise. It doesn't matter that you won't be sitting with a buddha-like trance for hours to start with! All you have to do is observe the thoughts as they come, and detach from them.
I thought just as you did.
It doesn't have to any great deal either - 5-10 mins a day is plenty to start with. If you can sit still for 5 minutes you can meditate!
i'll try anything, honestly meditation in the past has been epic fail (like reading an instruction manual on how to have sex, eh?) have tried and dont like taking direction on how to relax (epic fail and inspires me to kill
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Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
This is what it must be like to be in MENSA
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I'm going to give a 'Pilates for beginners' class a go next week.
Bit sceptical but not doing anything else that evening. I gather that's more physically-focussed than yoga, though.
Nobody...
revol68
what, fucking what?
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
everything
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
xes
F.O.A.D
But a koan is a paradoxical riddle which has no solution, so I think "meh" is an appropriate answer
(or Dillinger4s answer "everything" ) Good going jazzz, you're doing better than I've managed! I keep getting high instead of meditating
I'm interested in why you said everything rather than everybody.
xes
F.O.A.D
Because we are everything? (the whole "we are one" thang)
Ah yes! nothingness, the great void. But nevertheless, this answer is no good!
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
Answers are overrated, it is the question that is important, just like the journey is more important than where you end up.
This answer is no good??! Not very zen that jazzz!
Since there's only one place you're gonna end up, below the ground or burnt into ashes, yes, the journey is rather important relative to the destination.
And i agree that questions are more important than answers, up to a certain point. But to actually get the answers, eventually the questions have to be dropped. Only once the questions have been exhausted and dropped do the answers appear.
It's why i say that philosophy, to meet its objectives, must necessarily burn itself out. It only provides the answers it seeks when it stops asking questions, ie when it ceases to be.
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
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Jonti
what the dormouse said
You're on your fortieth day forty today, and I'm joining in!"It's 100 days of meditation for you jazzz" said a zen master to me recently, in the nicest possible way.
I'd emailed him to say I wanted to study koans and he met me the next day. That was Tuesday January 12th.
So the upshot of my zen training is that I have to meditate for at least 20 mins a day, and crucially, there is no skipping a day. Otherwise I start again from the beginning.
I'm on day 15.
Help keep me motivated!
Yep, I'm shadowing you, just forty days behind! We'll see who completes 100 consecutive days first
Today was my first day, and I've done my 20 mins zazen already.
Jonti
what the dormouse said
Just finished reading the whole thread. It's interesting that meditation still arouses hostility in some people. I take that to be more a reaction to its cultural milieux ("hippy dippy" connotations) in the UK, and not a response made from personal knowledge and experience.
More briefly: "boring bigots fuck off, please"
More briefly: "boring bigots fuck off, please"
