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More police brutality than you can shake a stick at.

lets not forget the summary appropriation of a citizens assets. That one really does peoples nuts in and fails to make a cohesive society. We have the proceeds of crime act, a mate lost 1500 quid to it and still complains bitterly and doesn't like it when you remind him that he was actually selling drugs and in this case that money was the proceeds of crime. Imagine getting your car robbed from a pull over though. Rather than a producer. You never get it back, even if you are in the right.
 
All of the world corrupt police pull terrible shit every day, yet the American stories really dominate.
We truly are the 51st state.
 
All of the world corrupt police pull terrible shit every day, yet the American stories really dominate.
We truly are the 51st state.
it's like we share a language and have a huge media bleedthrough or something. I'm always grateful when greek posters or posters who know spanish/are from a spanish speaking country give us news on their political and social situation. I can't learn languages that well, so its a good thing. Google translate might as well be saying juliet screams blackmange dog arse yussef islam faraday cage sometimes. We need better translation software goddamit. Sort it out, boffins
 
On average, 4,472 black men were killed by other black men annually between Jan. 1, 2009, and Dec. 31, 2012, according to the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Reports. Using FBI and CDC statistics, Professor Johnson calculates that 112 black men, on average, suffered both justified and unjustified police-involved deaths annually during this period.

This equals 2.5 percent of these 4,472 yearly deaths. For every black man — criminal or innocent — killed by a cop, 40 black men were murdered by other black men. The, at most, 2.5 percent of the problem generates relentless rage. And, yet, it is rude-to-racist to mention 97.5 percent of the problem.


Thats the problem americas stupidily violent for a 1st world country


Pivoting the dialogue to black-on-black crime is a red herring and nothing short of intellectual dishonesty. Let’s momentarily set aside the considerable amount of time and energy, the abundance of resources, and the plethora of leaders (and no, I’m not talking about Sharpton and Jackson) dedicated to healing the broken communities where black lives are taken the most. While undoubtedly terrible, black peers killing each other is not, has never been, and will never be analogous to police killing unarmed black folks. I posit that all black life lost is immensely tragic, but the impunity with which officers across this nation, sworn to serve and protect, can snuff out black life frequently and without consequence should inspire special ire. In plainer terms, the “protectors” killing our kids, and then being treated as heroes instead of criminals, should make us even angrier.

The deadly brand of policing that seems to only haunt marginalized communities is part of a larger system of institutional injustice that continues to steal black lives en masse. The same criminal justice system that has created aggressive policing has also spurred the prison industrial complex, broken educational journeys, and shattered families. Policing is only a symptom. Injustice is the root. And the fallacy of black-on-black crime does more to blame the victim than attack the roots of inequity that can leave black children dead at the hands of a peer or police.

We can do better than this intellectual child’s play; it only distracts from true systemic change.

Op-Ed: The Fallacy of Black-on-Black Crime
 
If you're saying that the national government has no ability to influence the behaviour of local police departments, then I don't really understand why they're called 'police departments' rather than 'militias'.
I don't know why they are called what they are called, but the federal gov has no power to order local police depts to do or not do anything. It can investigate and prosecute local police who may have broken federal law however. The feds can also sue state and local governments in federal court. That's why there's so much fighting over judicial appointments since the courts have so much power.
 
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If you're saying that the national government has no ability to influence the behaviour of local police departments, then I don't really understand why they're called 'police departments' rather than 'militias'.

Britain has a unitary government system: Canada and the US have federal systems - where there is a division of powers between a federal government and the provincial governments, in Canada's case; and the state governments, in the case of the US.
 
Thing is if the massive amount of violent crime and access to guns does tend to explain a shoot first attitude
From the police

I get your point but a lot of these murders have been carried out during traffic stops or minor public order incidents and most importantly people are not being treated equally.

Have a look at this video and I think you will see why people are upset.

 
The guy who made the Alton Sterling video has now been arrested (by a SWAT team!) on some outstanding traffic charges.

According to your link he didn't make the video (he shared it), and he wasn't arrested by SWAT, but military policemen.
 
According to your link he didn't make the video (he shared it), and he wasn't arrested by SWAT, but military policemen.

Nice bit of payback wankers:mad:
Military police get told someone on the base is wanted they have to pick them up you can lose your security clearance and hence your job for this. Although the military police and base heirachy wont take kindly to being used for revenge.
 
Ieshia Evans.

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Woman in stunning Baton Rouge protest photo is nurse and mom

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This was shared to my Facebook feed. Some interesting figures and speculation on why police killing of Latino people is less prominent in the media.

4 Latinos Killed by US Cops This Week—And Media Ignored It

As the country continues to debate police accountability and the all-too-routine killing of unarmed black men by white law enforcement, it's imperative to understand that this issue is not just about black people and white people.

In fact, despite the available statistical evidence, most people don't know that Native Americans are most likely to be killed by police, compared with other racial groups. Native Americans make up about 0.8% of the population, yet account for 1.9% of police killings.

Police shootings: Who's most likely to be killed? - CNN.com
 
A question for our posters from the USA

In the last few days 6 Latinos, Fermin Vincent Valenzuela, Vinson Ramos, Melissa Ventura, Anthony Nuñez, Pedro Villanueva and Raul Saavedra-Vargas have been shot and killed by police in the USA, why are these shooting not covered to the same extent as others? Is there an equivalent to Black Lives Matter among the Latino community there?
 
A question for our posters from the USA

In the last few days 6 Latinos, Fermin Vincent Valenzuela, Vinson Ramos, Melissa Ventura, Anthony Nuñez, Pedro Villanueva and Raul Saavedra-Vargas have been shot and killed by police in the USA, why are these shooting not covered to the same extent as others? Is there an equivalent to Black Lives Matter among the Latino community there?
My understanding is that Black as a term in race politics extends as a spectrum to all minority people of colour.... It would be good to see bkacklivesmatter open to those who identify as Latino or native American, and the campaign spread to those communities...unity strength etc
 
My understanding is that Black as a term in race politics extends as a spectrum to all minority people of colour.... It would be good to see bkacklivesmatter open to those who identify as Latino or native American, and the campaign spread to those communities...unity strength etc
Yes it would be good but my understanding from Latino friends in the USA is that it currently doesn't.

Edit to add, I'm told that none of the 6 names I mentioned above were mentioned by anyone from BLM when they spoke to the news in the USA.
 
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