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More police brutality than you can shake a stick at.

He's in office until January. And you apparently can't understand the concept of local police departments. But like I said, he should have done more. But go ahead. Spew your hate if it makes you feel better.

The only hate I'm spewing is towards the executioners of innocent black Americans. Yes, you're right, Obama should have done more! Five cops get killed & it's the worst atrocity in American fucking history according to him. Sad.
 
Indeed it is sad. America is overflowing with guns & there's still plenty of racism. Police are trained to believe their top priority is their own safety. But their top priority is supposed to be the safety of the people they are sworn to protect. What may help are federal guidelines on the use of force by local police.
 
The only hate I'm spewing is towards the executioners of innocent black Americans. Yes, you're right, Obama should have done more! Five cops get killed & it's the worst atrocity in American fucking history according to him. Sad.
Yeh but there were some injured too
 
When theres 6000 homicides with guns every year in the states and the same using other means as well.

And everybody who wants a gun has one police shooting 500 black men is horrible
But then again black people shot the same in same number just in chicargo
 

On average, 4,472 black men were killed by other black men annually between Jan. 1, 2009, and Dec. 31, 2012, according to the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Reports. Using FBI and CDC statistics, Professor Johnson calculates that 112 black men, on average, suffered both justified and unjustified police-involved deaths annually during this period.

This equals 2.5 percent of these 4,472 yearly deaths. For every black man — criminal or innocent — killed by a cop, 40 black men were murdered by other black men. The, at most, 2.5 percent of the problem generates relentless rage. And, yet, it is rude-to-racist to mention 97.5 percent of the problem.


Thats the problem americas stupidily violent for a 1st world country
 
Some friends went on a Black Lives Matter march today

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More are planned.
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Mostly being done via Facebook so copy and share if you want. It was fairly small today but not bad for a same day thing.
 
To the people joking about the 5 people murdered today. You are idiots. You know nothing about the people that were killed. I understand the motivation of the shooters but I have as much sympathy for the family and friends of the police who died as I do for the loved ones of any murder victim. My Facebook page has had a constant stream of images, videos and heart felt words since seven this morning. Many of them from people who are not white, some have been the victims of abuse from the police here. None of them condone what was done. What they are doing is getting together to try and show how they feel.
 
On average, 4,472 black men were killed by other black men annually between Jan. 1, 2009, and Dec. 31, 2012, according to the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Reports. Using FBI and CDC statistics, Professor Johnson calculates that 112 black men, on average, suffered both justified and unjustified police-involved deaths annually during this period.

This equals 2.5 percent of these 4,472 yearly deaths. For every black man — criminal or innocent — killed by a cop, 40 black men were murdered by other black men. The, at most, 2.5 percent of the problem generates relentless rage. And, yet, it is rude-to-racist to mention 97.5 percent of the problem.

Thats the problem americas stupidily violent for a 1st world country
Young black men killed by US police at highest rate in year of 1,134 deaths
Thursday 31 December 2015
Young black men were nine times more likely than other Americans to be killed by police officers in 2015, according to the findings of a Guardian study that recorded a final tally of 1,134 deaths at the hands of law enforcement officers this year.
 
On average, 4,472 black men were killed by other black men annually between Jan. 1, 2009, and Dec. 31, 2012, according to the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Reports. Using FBI and CDC statistics, Professor Johnson calculates that 112 black men, on average, suffered both justified and unjustified police-involved deaths annually during this period.

This equals 2.5 percent of these 4,472 yearly deaths. For every black man — criminal or innocent — killed by a cop, 40 black men were murdered by other black men. The, at most, 2.5 percent of the problem generates relentless rage. And, yet, it is rude-to-racist to mention 97.5 percent of the problem.


Thats the problem americas stupidily violent for a 1st world country

The numbers are not the issue. The black men who kill black men are pursued by the police and if caught they will face the consequences. When a police officer murders someone they generally get away with it. You also need to consider the fact that white people have been caught on camera threatening police with knives and guns and not been shot and that is the problem. When all this happens over and over again and police walk free, often with their representatives denying there is even a problem with racism in the police force, there will eventually be an incident like the one yesterday.

Philando Castile shooting: police union hits back at governor's racism accusation
 
I was only thinking about a thing I read about the way some US troops descended into the trophy taking. One thing was keeping enemy weapons to plant on someone you just mowed down so as to say it was legitimate. How close can this map to the behaviour of people who confiscate tons of drugs and demi-legal handguns every year? You can understand what I suggest. Put an illegal handgun on somene, and a bag of crack. That as now a legitimate kill. Conspiranoid maybe?

e2a I'm not suggesting there is no drug dealing at all or anything like that.

Not a conspiracy theory an old tactic Urban Dictionary: Drop gun
 
Talking of conspiracy theories we've heard of use of triangulation from multiple snipers, snipers on the roof tops & at least one filmed at ground level and now I'm hearing it's a 'lone shooter' :hmm: Has to be one hell of a shot to pick out 11 officers in a panicking crowd, at night and only two civilians injured :hmm:
 
Talking of conspiracy theories we've heard of use of triangulation from multiple snipers, snipers on the roof tops & at least one filmed at ground level and now I'm hearing it's a 'lone shooter' :hmm: Has to be one hell of a shot to pick out 11 officers in a panicking crowd, at night and only two civilians injured :hmm:

He's a US Army vet who served in Afghanistan, guess they trained him pretty well.
 
Not actually that difficult he was shooting from ambush the police would make easy targets normal people don't go from casual mode to gunfighter stance quickly and pistols are really shitty weapons to take on a gunman with a rifle with.
Its not uber sniper skills just a trained infantry soldier that he failed to get away rather proves he wasnt that good or didnt care.

Also the high rise buildings around the area give weird echo and wind effects a poster on another forum was near by and heard the gunshots but had no idea where they were coming from. Eye witnesses are unreliable civillians running for their lives from a gun fight even more so.
 
On average, 4,472 black men were killed by other black men annually between Jan. 1, 2009, and Dec. 31, 2012, according to the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Reports. Using FBI and CDC statistics, Professor Johnson calculates that 112 black men, on average, suffered both justified and unjustified police-involved deaths annually during this period.

This equals 2.5 percent of these 4,472 yearly deaths. For every black man — criminal or innocent — killed by a cop, 40 black men were murdered by other black men. The, at most, 2.5 percent of the problem generates relentless rage. And, yet, it is rude-to-racist to mention 97.5 percent of the problem.


Thats the problem americas stupidily violent for a 1st world country
Both these figures (if they're correct) and the figures for white cop on black man killings underline one thing: American police forces are not fit for purpose, and should shut down and replaced. Rip it up and start again. Nobody over there seems to want to face this, though.
 
Both these figures (if they're correct) and the figures for white cop on black man killings underline one thing: American police forces are not fit for purpose, and should shut down and replaced. Rip it up and start again. Nobody over there seems to want to face this, though.
I've argued this with a yank before. The layers of competing police/law enforcement is almost police-statism. Just off the top of my head I could reel off six state and federal agencies. Who all loathe each other and squabble for funding and jurisdiction. Our lot are a bunch of cunts but there's are out of all control.
 
I've argued this with a yank before. The layers of competing police/law enforcement is almost police-statism. Just off the top of my head I could reel off six state and federal agencies. Who all loathe each other and squabble for funding and jurisdiction. Our lot are a bunch of cunts but there's are out of all control.
"Few bad apples " - maybe if your barrel keeps producing bad apples you should chuck it, and get yourself down to Honest Syd's Barrel Solutions.
 
And you apparently can't understand the concept of local police departments.

If you're saying that the national government has no ability to influence the behaviour of local police departments, then I don't really understand why they're called 'police departments' rather than 'militias'.
 
Both these figures (if they're correct) and the figures for white cop on black man killings underline one thing: American police forces are not fit for purpose, and should shut down and replaced. Rip it up and start again. Nobody over there seems to want to face this, though.


Its so bad the department of education has its own swat team :facepalm: they deal with student loan fraud and a lot of it is organised fraud so putting in raids is part of the job. In any fuctioning beuracracy you'd get assitance from the local police except its america .
So they might want to help if they arnt busy, But as its not there collar its not going on their results so little incentive to cooperate :eek:. also why the depart of argi has swat teams because if your going to shut down some rural fishfarm because they are posioning the river the owners probably have hunting rifles :hmm:.

Federal agencys are properly funded as are most state agencys unless they voted in full on small state republicans then all bets are off :(.
County and city is where it can get intresting big citys tend to be ok. Once you get outside of though things can get intresting parish councils in the UK dont get to fund swat teams for obvious reasons:D
 
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