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Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

How can you read and watch as much politics as you do and fail to understand it is not about (as Tom Watson did, for example) asking a list of questions?

No-one has claimed that it's about "asking a list of questions". All the professions that have been mentioned include learning how to interrogate, that it, to manipulate answers from a subject, not to read a question from a list.

With or without help from 'the silks' in 'the Commons', a fucking 8-year old could have done that.

You could have too, no doubt.

Is it any wonder both Murdoch's became more and more confident the longer it went on.

They became confident because Murdoch Sr's "mad grandad" act was paying off, and Murdoch Jr's "Cleatus the inbred" act was working too.

Perhaps the committee realised something that you obviously haven't: That pushing them hard, on that occasion, had less value than being able to convince them to return of their own free will rather than compelling them.
 
It depends on how insistent Myler and Crone are. the key thing is; two prominent, senior ex-NI people have flatly contradicted him, which as butchers alluded to in typically enigmatic fashion (;)), they've now begun to fight amongst themselves, and the old NI pack loyalty looks truly dead and buried.
In fact, JM has already been recalled by the CMS committee chair, for questioning on this.
e2a; if enough of this shit sticks to him, what it also means is that the next CEO of Newscorp will NOT be called Murdoch

Maybe it's just me being cynical here but i would have thought he's too rich and his dad's too influential to mean that he ended up inside? Or by "big trouble" do you simply mean not being on the board of News Int'l?
 
No, the Control Risks cheapo job was done before he was cleared to work for the Tories' HQ, i.e. when they were still in opposition. Later, he got the mid-level vetting, when the Coalition Of The Wallies was formed, and he was about to be given a job at No 10

In which case all of the shit currently airing will have been known by Cameron for at least a year.
 
Regarding Nixson, I like reading old stuff and putting new interpretation on the words with the benefit of hindsight :D

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?storyCode=34075&sectioncode=1

NoW managing editor Stuart Kuttner said: "Matt is an inordinately resourceful and he's a tenacious journalist. He demonstrated the ability to think widely and constructively in his features role, and to see many enterprises through from conception into the paper. Like the editor, Andy Coulson, Matt saw the newsdesk role as his next challenge and was delighted to seize it."

He added that Nixson was "a young man of significant talent and would fulfil the demands of the newsdesk with style and credit".
 
he's done for. totally fucked.

probably won't end up in prison, but a glittering career at newscorp is over.


ITS THE SON WOT DONE IT!


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A Twitter exchange between Robert Peston and Tom Watson:

Peston Robert Peston
There has been a dismissal of a Sun journalist tonight in relation to investigations into hacking etc by News Corp. Will give you more soon

tom_watson tom_watson
Why Sun story now @Peston? More spin to deflect Myler/Crone statement? Where's your dignity?

Peston Robert Peston
@tom_watson Tom, this is an outrageous and untrue allegation

tom_watson tom_watson
I'm sorry @Peston but you are being spoonfed stories. The Myler statement creates a crisis at NI. You have form. Stop being a patsy.

Peston Robert Peston
@tom_watson That is not worthy of a response
 
Watson is spot on though and Peston's role need to be highlighted.

This story just keeps on giving doesn't it?
For about 48 hours things seemed to have calmed down, but now more twists.

Camerons and Murdoch must been feeling like they were over the worst of it - and then ...

Could James Murdoch go down? Its definitely within the realms of possibility. Seems there's a few high up in NI willing to dump him in the shit. At the very least he will almost certainly have to resign in the near future.
 
I don't understand why Watson is bothered what Peston is reporting on. Watson has a committee investigation to deal with which should be able to get to the bottom of the issues. Surely that should be more important than arguing over minor momentary details with Peston.
 
Massive kudos to Watson and The Guardian here for relentlessly driving this story. Watson laid the trap for Murdoch Jnr with his questioning beautifully.

As an aside, I had contact with Watson a while ago on an unrelated issue and he responded immediately.
 
I think my point deserved more than that. Watson should not be being ruled by petty BBC items, his exchange with Peston is showing that he is being distracted.

He's not being ruled by anything and he's not being distracted. This whole story came out because people paid attention to lots of things. Have some perspective.
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/21/james-murdoch-select-committee-evidence
Colin Myler, editor of the paper until it was shut down two weeks ago, and Tom Crone, the paper's former head of legal affairs, said they had expressly told Murdoch of an email that would have blown a hole in its defence that only one "rogue reporter" was involved in the phone-hacking scandal.

This contradicts what Murdoch told the committee when questioned on Tuesday.
This is definitely the more important story, if Smithers lied to the committee...I mean everyone knows he lied to the committee but this is fucking great.

I mean he's out on his arse, minimum, in a week if this gathers pace - and we'll have Watson and the Guardian pushing it...and probably half the MPs in the country now.

(they'll be able to bargain a better price from the next bidder)
 
This on the sacking tonight of Sun features editor Matt Nixson.

"Matt Nixson, who has worked for the Sun for six months, was approached by four News International security guards at 6.30pm at the newspaper's office at Wapping. The guards asked him to leave the building because he was being dismissed. His computer was seized. [that'll be his Sun computer]

News International sources stressed this was standard procedure and did not indicate any wrong doing during Nixson's time at the Sun. They said the evidence indicating wrong doing related to his time at the News of the World."

blatantly desperate attempt to stop contagion to the sun, and getting rid of evidence before it comes up, dont you reckon?
 
The way news international was spinning myler being a good & honourable journalist has a taste of delicious irony now. Who's going to believe murdoch over him?
 
This on the sacking tonight of Sun features editor Matt Nixson.

"Matt Nixson, who has worked for the Sun for six months, was approached by four News International security guards at 6.30pm at the newspaper's office at Wapping. The guards asked him to leave the building because he was being dismissed. His computer was seized. [that'll be his Sun computer]

News International sources stressed this was standard procedure and did not indicate any wrong doing during Nixson's time at the Sun. They said the evidence indicating wrong doing related to his time at the News of the World."

blatantly desperate attempt to stop contagion to the sun, and getting rid of evidence before it comes up, dont you reckon?

Or cleaning up ahead of the lulzsec email release? They'll know what's in the 4 gigs they have.
 
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