Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[Balbi]

http://gawker.com/5820243/jon-stewart-tackles-the-news-of-the-world-scandal

 

[London_Calling]

Peston is a NI "mouthpiece" because he was fed a story about NI buying from a police officer personal and security details about the head of state?

 

[Santino]

He wears a peach scarf.

 

[laptop]

Meanwhile in the US...

I guess given US legal culture it was inevitable there'd already be a lawsuit, but nice to know the name of one litigant against Murdoch:

There is already one US lawsuit related to the current scandal. News Corporation is being sued by a group of shareholders who allege a failure of corporate governance.

The lawsuit was filed in Delaware by Amalgamated Bank and a group of pension funds, and is an updated version of a previous action.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14111966

Wonder what the previous action was about?

 

[London_Calling]

What did Delaware? She wore a peachy scarf.

 

[mack]

Peston drives me up the fucking wall the way he talks and drawls his words.

 

[Santino]

Wonder what the previous action was about?

I think it was related to the fact that he had bought his daughter's production company for squillions.

 

[Combustible]

Wonder what the previous action was about?

I think it was about News Corp buying Elisabeth Murdoch's company for a vastly inflated price.

 

[London_Calling]

Peston drives me up the fucking wall the way he talks and drawls his words.

He does love a performance and his screen time: proper old-school theatrical slapper. Bless.

 

[butchersapron]

Worth recalling that Peston bascially put his arse up for sale in the mid-2000′s when he signed up with Editorial Intelligence – “where PR meets journalism” (set up by Stalinists Eric Hobsbawm’s daugher btw).

 

[London_Calling]

And?

 

[butchersapron]

Which suggests that he's quite prepared to do stuff that he shouldn't and has a track record for it - esp where PR and journalism 'meet' Summed up nicely in the article that you didn't read:

One marvels how these people could have got mixed up with Editorial Intelligence in the first place. How could the cause of good journalism possibly be strengthened by a PR operation whose main purpose is to help companies manipulate the media? Mr D'Ancona is quoted as saying that Editorial Intelligence had become too much of a "distraction". The truth is that he and others have belatedly woken up to the fact that they had no business helping a PR organisation.

 

[teqniq]

Edward Bernays has a lot to answer for. Pity the fucker's already croaked.

 

[laptop]

http://gawker.com/5820243/jon-stewart-tackles-the-news-of-the-world-scandal

"Schadenfreudegasm"

 

[London_Calling]

Which suggests that he's quite prepared to do stuff that he shouldn't and has a track record for it - esp where PR and journalism 'meet' Summed up nicely in the article that you didn't read:

All I saw was he was involved at the start of a new venture, and got out when it turned out to be something other?

Are you trying to recreate a Murdoch style smear, for old times sake?

 

[ymu]

http://gawker.com/5820243/jon-stewart-tackles-the-news-of-the-world-scandal

For anyone interested in the US take on this, that ^^ is a Jon Stewart's Daily Show clip. And a damn fine one too.

 

[Divisive Cotton]

Peston drives me up the fucking wall the way he talks and drawls his words.

it's like his batteries need replacing

 

[butchersapron]

All I saw was he was involved at the staet and got out when it turned out to be something other?

Are you trying to recreate a Murdoch style smear?

Yes i am. That's what i'm doing.

 

[London_Calling]

Well you're shit at that as well.

Anyone got any substance at all on this 'Peston is a NI mouthpiece' angle - like that's a productive place to be this week?

 

[butchersapron]

It seems that the person Wade (as was) went to in 2009 to shockingly reveal that naughty Glenn Mulcaire had tapped her phone was...Robert Peston - at that time BBC Business Editor.That ceratinly suggests he's at least close to the inside of the NI network.

 

[butchersapron]

Is the BBC's Robert Peston too close to Rupert Murdoch's man Will Lewis?

And once again, questions are emerging over quite who is providing the enthusiastic journalist with the 'inside track' that has placed him at the vanguard of the story.

Media commentators have highlighted the close personal and formerly professional relationship between Mr Peston and Will Lewis, the very senior News International troubleshooter, amid suggestions that the BBC man is being used by the Murdoch machine.

There are certainly links between Mr Peston, the son of Labour peer and economist Maurice Peston, and Mr Lewis.

(My bold)

Do try and keep abreast of the story london_calling.

 

[London_Calling]

It seems that the person Wade (as was) went to in 2009 to shockingly reveal that naughty Glenn Mulcaire had tapped her phone was...Robert Peston - at that time BBC Business Editor.That ceratinly suggests he's at least close to the inside of the NI network.

Or she was keen to ingratiate herself, or to try and drag him in, or to build relations with the BBC, or a hundred other possibilities. Well done.


And now you're quoting the Daily Mail on a high profile BBC employee. LOL.

 

[butchersapron]

Or she was keen to ingratiate herself, or to try and drab him in, or to build relations with the BBC, or a hundred other possibilities. Well done.

So in order to suggest that Peston isn't close to NI top level networks you put forward the idea that key top level NI personnel might have sought to a develop close relationship to Peston. Well done you!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Best-case scenario: Rupert, James and Rebekah facing criminal charges in the UK and US, ruled not 'fit and proper' to own a single share of BSkyB, News Corp effectively dismantled, and the phone-hacking rot spreading to the Daily Mail and Dacre. Oh, that would be beautiful.

I don't know about you, but I got a semi when I read that!

 

[laptop]

I think all we know about Peston is that:

• he hung out at Brooks's;
• the Met provided information to News International in confidence, possibly including cop-bribing;
• IIRC Peston broke the story about payola for Royal Protection cops; and
• I speculate - and I think I'm right - that this changing of the subject from bent Murdoch to bent cops is what the Met is so upset about (here).

So - is he a shill, or was he used, by feeding him a juicy story?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Are the telephone companies escaping from this unscathed?

What are they guilty of? From what I can make out, they're guilty of having employees who're not averse to a bung, and some other employees who're vulnerable to the sort of "social engineering" (in the "hacking" sense of the word rather than the Fabian) that anyone can be taken in by.

 

[ymu]

Peston is a NI "mouthpiece" because he was fed a story about NI buying from a police officer personal and security details about the head of state?

I answered a direct question from BA. Why are you now pretending you understand the answer when you clearly don't?

The Met accused NI of leaking information about the corrupt police officers. Peston has been writing those stories. It doesn't take much to work out where he's getting his information from, which is why lots of journalists have been 'muttering'.

If that's still too much for you to get your head around, ask nicely for a source and you might get one.


E2A: no need. BA has more patience.

 

[London_Calling]

I think all we know about Peston is that:

• he hung out at Brooks's;
• the Met provided information to News International in confidence, possibly including cop-bribing;
• IIRC Peston broke the story about payola for Royal Protection cops; and
• I speculate - and I think I'm right - that this changing of the subject from bent Murdoch to bent cops is what the Met is so upset about (here).

So - is he a shill, or was he used, by feeding him a juicy story?

tfb to him, he doesn't just hang out with *a* group. He works the Murdoch group, and the Bank of England people, and the former master of the universe, etc, etc. It is, after all, his job as Business Editor.

If someone has evidence to the contrary - 'evidence' not being a Daily Mail article - then I'm all ears.

 

[ViolentPanda]

That's the worst case scenario now, surely.

Best case is the coalition crumbling along with everything New Labour stood for, the complete collapse of the Met, CPS and large parts of the judiciary, along with the pro-austerity, pro-banker media in this country, and a series of governments brought to their knees in short order whilst we, 'the people'. have a proper think about what democracy really means and how we want to implement it.

That is an absolute best case scenario, obv.

To be fair, the original question was asked w/r/t Murdoch and NI/NC, rather than about the possibilities w/r/t the wider social and political effects.

 

[belboid]

If someone has evidence to the contrary - 'evidence' not being a Daily Mail article - then I'm all ears.

you're Andrew Marr??