Meredith Kercher Murder Case: Verdict expected soon

[Treacle Toes]

Yes and he was exonerated. Which adds to their questionableness.



(*Sex, lies & the murder of Meredith Kercher Parts )

Was kinda my point here buddy. That Amanda's sex life wasn't the only factor taken into account when her character was being assessed. 'Lying' about the presence of another person who is later found out to be innocent didn't go well for her.

 

[Treacle Toes]

The police. That she was questioned aggressively without a lawyer present and panicked and gave them his name

Yeah okay...she could have been giving 'possibles' and this was taken as her lying/blaming someone else in an effort to cover up.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

She done it.

Dunno, but if I was convicted of some thing I didn't do there would be no tears, sobbing and the rest.

There would be an outpouring of righteous anger. And I think my family would display the same anger.

But she sobbed like a child who had been confronted with irrefutable proof of her bad doings.

He was stoic, again not the response of the truly innocent. But his family has money and high connections in Italy and maybe he feels, like the British toffs do, that being a posh fucker will eventually work in his favour.

The saddest thing is that Miss Kercher's family will never know exactly how or why their daughter died.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Oh and treelover, spell the deceased's name correctly, please.

 

[_angel_]

She done it.

Dunno, but if I was convicted of some thing I didn't do there would be no tears, sobbing and the rest.

There would be an outpouring of righteous anger. And I think my family would display the same anger.

But she sobbed like a child who had been confronted with irrefutable proof of her bad doings.

He was stoic, again not the response of the truly innocent. But his family has money and high connections in Italy and maybe he feels, like the British toffs do, that being a posh fucker will eventually work in his favour.

The saddest thing is that Miss Kercher's family will never know exactly how or why their daughter died.

I think if I'd been convicted of something I didn't do I'd cry!

 

[stethoscope]

Dunno, but if I was convicted of some thing I didn't do there would be no tears, sobbing and the rest.

There would be an outpouring of righteous anger. And I think my family would display the same anger.

But she sobbed like a child who had been confronted with irrefutable proof of her bad doings.

Not at all - we all react to, and express differently feelings of anger.

 

[Endeavour]

She done it.

Dunno, but if I was convicted of some thing I didn't do there would be no tears, sobbing and the rest.

There would be an outpouring of righteous anger. And I think my family would display the same anger.

But she sobbed like a child who had been confronted with irrefutable proof of her bad doings.

He was stoic, again not the response of the truly innocent. But his family has money and high connections in Italy and maybe he feels, like the British toffs do, that being a posh fucker will eventually work in his favour.

The saddest thing is that Miss Kercher's family will never know exactly how or why their daughter died.

I'm impressed that so many urbanites are able to distill 11 months of courtroom evidence into a feeling.

again

 

[_angel_]

Not at all - we all react to, and express differently feelings of anger.

I know! People have different reactions to things... I hope BS isn't on a jury anytime soon!!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I think if I'd been convicted of something I didn't do I'd cry!

Not at all - we all react to, and express differently feelings of anger.

Got kids?

It is basic human emotions. When confronted with accusations we deny it. We keep on denying it until the incontrovertible proof is laid bare. Then the pressure of the lies leads us to cry.

OK a hard man would just shout 'Fuck off' at the judge and mumble something about cancer to the jury. Fair enough.

An innocent person would be so outraged as to have no time for that shit,or for crying. Especially an innocent person who has already been locked up for 2 years for something she didn't do. She'd be expecting as right her vindication, it didn't come.

Anger is the emotion that would have been displayed.

The guilty woman cried.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I know! People have different reactions to things... I hope BS isn't on a jury anytime soon!!

You're OK, I'm barred from sitting on a jury

 

[QueenOfGoths]

This is such a difficult one, part of me wants to believe they are guilty because of the suffering to Meredith and her family and because it may give them some kind of closure but, tbh, what I have read about the evidence in the case it all seems rather circumstancial and part of me can't help feeling that much of the conviction is based on the accounts of her bizarre behavour and her sex life.

 

[stethoscope]

Got kids?

No, mainly because I can't have them

Not that I see what relevance that has.

Anger is the emotion that would have been displayed.

The guilty woman cried.

When I'm angry at someone, for e.g. a perceived injustice, it usually gets me upset which might create a few tears. I hardly ever shout and scream about it. If you then factor in the pressures and tiredness from a lengthy court case too, I can see why crying might be the emotion released.

 

[_angel_]

Got kids?

It is basic human emotions. When confronted with accusations we deny it. We keep on denying it until the incontrovertible proof is laid bare. Then the pressure of the lies leads us to cry.

OK a hard man would just shout 'Fuck off' at the judge and mumble something about cancer to the jury. Fair enough.

An innocent person would be so outraged as to have no time for that shit,or for crying. Especially an innocent person who has already been locked up for 2 years for something she didn't do. She'd be expecting as right her vindication, it didn't come.

Anger is the emotion that would have been displayed.

The guilty woman cried.

Are you serious? It's this kind of cod psychology that gets innocent people locked up all the time!

I would have cried too if it had been me! Probably just from exhaustion. Not talking particularly about this case, just in general.

eta: women tend to express anger differently to men and more likely to cry - I know I do!

 

[g force]

This is such a difficult one, part of me wants to believe they are guilty because of the suffering to Meredith and her family and because it may give them some kind of closure but, tbh, what I have read about the evidence in the case it all seems rather circumstancial and part of me can't help feeling that much of the conviction is based on the accounts of her bizarre behavour and her sex life.

Aside from the 11 month trial which no one here attended or heard the evidence. That includes journalists who aren't by law allowed to report on the evidence presented in the court.

The next few months may reveal more in terms of evidence

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

No, mainly because I can't have them

Not that I see what relevance that has.



When I'm angry at someone, for e.g. a perceived injustice, it usually gets me upset which might create a few tears. I hardly ever shout and scream about it. If you then factor in the pressures and tiredness from a lengthy court case too, I can see why crying might be the emotion released.

Sorry you can't have kids.

Having a sprog reveals a whole new world of psychology to you. Psychology is so fucking simple, every time a psychologist explains something they seem to be telling you something you already knew. Having a brat merely takes your mind back to when you were one.

Sure anger can cause tears to flow.

It doesn't make you sob like a baby. Which Is what Amanda Knox did.

 

[Endeavour]

Are you serious? It's this kind of cod psychology that gets innocent people locked up all the time!

wot angel says ^^^^

 

[phildwyer]

And according to a friend of mine in Italy, the press are not remotely salacious.

This is a joke, right?

 

[QueenOfGoths]

Are you serious? It's this kind of cod psychology that gets innocent people locked up all the time!

I would have cried too if it had been me! Probably just from exhaustion. Not talking particularly about this case, just in general.

Absolutely - people react in so many different ways, I don't see how you can draw any conclusions on her crying or lack of it. She didn't cry when first arrested so she is guilty but she crys now and so is! That strikes me as someone who is maybe less self aware of how she is 'supposed' to react, however, again that is my judgement as I don't lnow her.

 

[Endeavour]

Sorry you can't have kids.

Having a sprog reveals a whole new world of psychology to you. Psychology is so fucking simple, every time a psychologist explains something they seem to be telling you something you already knew. Having a brat merely takes your mind back to when you were one.

Sure anger can cause tears to flow.

It doesn't make you sob like a baby. Which Is what Amanda Know did.

I have children but I would never claim to judge someone's guilt or innocence merely by being a parent.

What an arrogant tosser you are. Crikey!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Are you serious? It's this kind of cod psychology that gets innocent people locked up all the time!

I would have cried too if it had been me! Probably just from exhaustion. Not talking particularly about this case, just in general.

eta: women tend to express anger differently to men and more likely to cry - I know I do!

Cod psycholgy?

When have you been convicted of a crime you didn't commit?

When I was I felt nothing but anger at the whole Judaical system. I had placed my trust in it and got fucked up the arse for doing so.

OK it only cost me two thousand pounds, not twenty six years of my life, but still.

 

[Zabo]

Wonderful nonsensical speculation on some of the posts.

I think I'll rely on the "Newsweek" journalist who has been at each court attendance since the start. She said she believed the jury was correct in their findings.

As for Knox. She is clearly a fukwit. What sane person would be doing cartwheels and the splits in a police station while Kurcher's friends are grieving?

One has to admire the Americans trying to admonish the Italians over their judicial system.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I have children but I would never claim to judge someone's guilt or innocence merely by being a parent.

What an arrogant tosser you are. Crikey!

So this woman who has been found guilty of murder is what>

Twat!

 

[phildwyer]

Aside from the 11 month trial which no one here attended or heard the evidence. That includes journalists who aren't by law allowed to report on the evidence presented in the court.

The next few months may reveal more in terms of evidence

Apparently the jury has to provide a written rationale for the verdict within 90 days. It will be interesting to see whether her "promiscuity" features at all.

 

[phildwyer]

As for Knox. She is clearly a fukwit. What sane person would be doing cartwheels and the splits in a police station while Kurcher's friends are grieving?

A 20 year-old left alone in a cell for hours on end with nothing else to do.

 

[Endeavour]

So this woman who has been found guilty of murder is what>

Twat!

Well according to you, a small child.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Well according to you, a small child.

Acting like a child you div.

 

[Zabo]

Phil. Where do you get your 'hours on end' from? As for: "A 20 year-old left alone in a cell for hours on end with nothing else to do."

Mr Profazio said: "I heard on the night Knox and Sollecito were arrested she was in a room at the station sitting on his knee. I was told that she did the splits and a cartwheel in one of the rooms then later after being questioned all night she burst into tears."

 

[Libertad]

Oh and treelover, spell the deceased's name correctly, please.

^^ It would show that the discussion was being conducted with a modicum of respect for the deceased and her family.

The fact that they will never read any of this is not important, but that we discuss it with a degree of compassion, is.

Framing the topic under a thread title that spells the victim's name incorrectly is a shame.

 

[_angel_]

Cod psycholgy?

When have you been convicted of a crime you didn't commit?

When I was I felt nothing but anger at the whole Judaical system. I had placed my trust in it and got fucked up the arse for doing so.

OK it only cost me two thousand pounds, not twenty six years of my life, but still.

YOU felt nothing but anger - someone else may react differently. If you'd been on trial for a year in a foreign country I think exhaustion and emotional collapse might come into it - but not everyone reacts the same!

Most women would have cried in that situation, I think. Either way, it's not an indicator of guilt or innocence.

Judging women for displaying the "wrong" emotions happens all the times in rape cases, I can't believe people read so much into it.

 

[London_Calling]

Apparently the jury has to provide a written rationale for the verdict within 90 days. It will be interesting to see whether her "promiscuity" features at all.

You seem very interested in Ms Knox. It's reassuring to see someone, so critical of the media's interest based on someone's appearance, suddenly be so concerned at a perceived miscarriage of justice.

Personally, I wonder if Ms Knox has lesbian tendencies, or might perhaps develop them during her time behind bars: What do you think?