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Many dead in coordinated Paris shootings and explosions

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That tweet might be a shit joke or whatever but the appeal of a message like that which clears away any confusion & tells you exactly where to place the blame that's real.
 
there weren't 10,000s of muslims on the move through europe at the time of course. stop 'fighting the last war'

To a somewhat mixed reaction. It's not just been hostility, thankfully quite the opposite in many places.

Why don't we expect the best of our fellows and see what happens before we start suggesting to other people that they should be scared with what they've lived with all their life.
 
Any news about who the attackers were?
I hear Holland has said they were ISIS, but is there any detailed evidence of that?
 
To a somewhat mixed reaction. It's not just been hostility, thankfully quite the opposite in many places.

Why don't we expect the best of our fellows and see what happens before we start suggesting to other people that they should be scared with what they've lived with all their life.
the great movement across europe of very recent creation so only babies have lived with it all their lives.
 
ok thanks will have a look at your links.
Here's a quote from an interview with him just after Hebdo in Jan

"In the aftermath of a massacre, many will be deaf to Cockburn’s pleas for a critical eye over foreign powers’ actions and alliances. “This often happens at times of high emotion. An explanation of the roots of some ghastly atrocity such as Charlie Hebdo [is seen] to dilute the degree of evil involved and justify the actions of the perpetrators. This response is understandable but it is not very useful. Asking who is to directly to blame for Charlie Hebdo and explaining why it happened are two different things.”

Patrick Cockburn: ‘An effective terrorist attack requires the complicity of governments’
 
i am not perduaded by the second article, nor have other readers as can be seen by the low rating it's received. it ignores the truth about the us intelligence analysts revolt and conflates a us position on assad eith a more general western position on assad.
 
Horrible footage on Le Monde by a resident with a view of the venue's side door used by people to escape. Some hanging from ledges and left lying injured.

He went down to let people into his building and got shot in the arm.

Le Monde.

(If anybody starts with the hardman routine of sneering at people for running away, just fuck off please.)
 
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Suzanne Evans wasted no time in pointing the finger.



Then she decided to a little red-baiting after she'd been called out on the above tweet.



Cretin.
 
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