Manchester police defend prosecution of two mentally ill people

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Manchester police defend prosecution of two mentally ill people

Manchester police defend prosecution of two mentally ill people

What am I missing here? I can't think of anything that supports the Manchester Police decision. Except they're a bunch of coños.

What the fuck is the world coming to when such actions are even considered?

 

[farmerbarleymow]

It's a difficult one to defend. The comments of the mags in one case were out of order.

 

[likesfish]

The First one possibly if only to make the mental health authorities do something anything. 16 call outs to the same situation something has to change.

 

[SpackleFrog]

There aren't any mental health authorities or services to deal with this. The reality we now live in is that many people will get a better level of mental health treatment (ie some, minimal) in prison than in society (ie none).

 

[Pickman's model]

There aren't any mental health authorities or services to deal with this. The reality we now live in is that many people will get a better level of mental health treatment (ie some, minimal) in prison than in society (ie none).

prisons are part of society, they don't exist in some void

 

[SpackleFrog]

prisons are part of society, they don't exist in some void

Alright pedant, you know what I mean!

 

[Pickman's model]

Alright pedant, you know what I mean!

in this case the greater manchester mental health trust would be the appropriate body to refer to Home - Greater Manchester Mental Health NHS Foundation Trust so while their services may be inadequate there are some services, paltry though they may be, for those not incarcerated.

ridiculous prosecutions, surprised the cps thought it in the public interest to take it to court

 

[likesfish]

well there hasn't apparently been the 17th incident so somebody's taken the poor woman off the polices hands they are not a mental health service and while their training could improve its not their job .
The 2nd one makes no sense unless they are playing politics with the Manchester mental health services.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

A: GMP are cunts.

 

[SpookyFrank]

There aren't any mental health authorities or services to deal with this. The reality we now live in is that many people will get a better level of mental health treatment (ie some, minimal) in prison than in society (ie none).

In many cases a suicide attempt is the only way you'll get any kind of mental health treatment at all.

 

[neonwilderness]

The First one possibly if only to make the mental health authorities do something anything. 16 call outs to the same situation something has to change.

6, not 16. 16 was the number of officers responding to the latest incident.

It’s still 6 times too many though, but prosecution isn’t the answer. I’m sure this has nothing to do with cut backs to MH services in recent years

 

[likesfish]

I think its a tactic a shitty one, but when you run out of ideas much like a certain agency who ran a hostel organized a court date for mass eviction of residents ( they weren't actually going to chuck anyone out) but after 6 months of no HB payments things were getting desperate.
If it's stupid but it works. your still an idiot but you got lucky.
Police should not be the Mental Health response service

 

[Ming]

I think its a tactic a shitty one, but when you run out of ideas much like a certain agency who ran a hostel organized a court date for mass eviction of residents ( they weren't actually going to chuck anyone out) but after 6 months of no HB payments things were getting desperate.
If it's stupid but it works. your still an idiot but you got lucky.
Police should not be the Mental Health response service

There are community teams in the UK (CRT/AOT) who see people in A&E and the holding cells of the local police station but if you go nuts in the town centre plod will bring you to ‘a place of safety’ under a section 136 of the MHA (or a 135 if you’re in your home). They’re often the first point of contact. We’ve got an interesting thing here in Vancouver called Car 87 which is an RPN and a specially trained police officer which fulfill a similar role.

 

[likesfish]

I think that's fine as an Emergancy but if they are turning up to the same person doing the same thing in the same place. That's less "oh fuck somebody do something now!".
More a massive failure in whatever treatment plan there is for the poor sod whose obviously in crisis.

 

[tim]

One of them had absconded from a hospital, so the trying to bring her to the attention of the relevant authorities argument doesn't wash.