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Liz Truss’s time is up

Truss as prime minister promises to be even more "what the fuck?!?" than Johnson. She promised the moon on the stick during her leadership campaign - billions of uncosted tax cuts (for the rich) funded by the "growth" that it will magically create. At the same time the grim reality of millions of people thrown into destitution, thousands of business going bankrupt and the resultant economic meltdown is going to force her to take emergency measures involving covid levels of borrowing and state intervention. And chuck in her politically suicidal desire to trash workers rights. How the fuck does she square that circle?
shes batshit and idiotically dogmatic enough to try and push through her loony right agenda way past the point of political common-sense and actual possibility. She has little authority with mps, utterly devoid of the intellect and political communication skills of Blair and thatcher and none of the ... "charisma" (vomit) of johsnon.
We may be about see yet more political chaos unleashed against a backdrop of social/economic meltdown - and the sort of level of protest, strikes and civil disorder not seen since the 80s.
There are even mutterings about letters of no confidence going in - i would be amazed if the tories replace her before a general election but for it even to be talked about before she has even started is shocking in itself.
The polling amongst tory voters that shows her ratings plummeting the more they see of her is pretty eyebrow raising as well.
She look like being a total fucking disaster - for the tory party, for the government but - tragically - for the rest of us as well.
 
Truss as prime minister promises to be even more "what the fuck?!?" than Johnson. She promised the moon on the stick during her leadership campaign - billions of uncosted tax cuts (for the rich) funded by the "growth" that it will magically create. At the same time the grim reality of millions of people thrown into destitution, thousands of business going bankrupt and the resultant economic meltdown is going to force her to take emergency measures involving covid levels of borrowing and state intervention. And chuck in her politically suicidal desire to trash workers rights. How the fuck does she square that circle?
shes batshit and idiotically dogmatic enough to try and push through her loony right agenda way past the point of political common-sense and actual possibility. She has little authority with mps, utterly devoid of the intellect and political communication skills of Blair and thatcher and none of the ... "charisma" (vomit) of johsnon.
We may be about see yet more political chaos unleashed against a backdrop of social/economic meltdown - and the sort of level of protest, strikes and civil disorder not seen since the 80s.
There are even mutterings about letters of no confidence going in - i would be amazed if the tories replace her before a general election but for it even to be talked about before she has even started is shocking in itself.
The polling amongst tory voters that shows her ratings plummeting the more they see of her is pretty eyebrow raising as well.
She look like being a total fucking disaster - for the tory party, for the government but - tragically - for the rest of us as well.
Makes you wonder if she is doing a Medvedev for Johnson. Nothing else seems to make sense.
 
Makes you wonder if she is doing a Medvedev for Johnson. Nothing else seems to make sense.
Yeh. But so few things in life make sense. Come to terms with the complexity and irrationality of life and you'll be better placed to understand it instead of as you do here positing the existence of a conspiracy
 
Nothing else seems to make sense.
I think the reason she's chaotic is that she he has no ethos except for wanting to be in charge. She knows she needs a set of beliefs which other people can unite around. She needs a gang of supporters. So she just flails around, trying different things. It's frightening that someone so empty and pointless has got to the top.
 
I think the reason she's chaotic is that she he has no ethos except for wanting to be in charge. She knows she needs a set of beliefs which other people can unite around. She needs a gang of supporters. So she just flails around, trying different things. It's frightening that someone so empty and pointless has got to the top.

Ironic that all that could be applied equally to the outgoing PM
 
I think the reason she's chaotic is that she he has no ethos except for wanting to be in charge. She knows she needs a set of beliefs which other people can unite around. She needs a gang of supporters. So she just flails around, trying different things. It's frightening that someone so empty and pointless has got to the top.

Johnson part 2.
 
I think the reason she's chaotic is that she he has no ethos except for wanting to be in charge. She knows she needs a set of beliefs which other people can unite around. She needs a gang of supporters. So she just flails around, trying different things. It's frightening that someone so empty and pointless has got to the top.
Thing is she needs Tory MPs to believe she cares about whether or not they will keep their jobs. The consequence of not caring is that they will replace her. It's so obvious and inevitable that a strategy of not caring amounts to a deliberate kamikaze strategy, rather than just a flawed plan.
 
I just heard rumour that the new Health Secretary is tipped to be the current work and pensions secretary Therse Coffey
She does have a PhD in chemistry and appears to have some kind of functional brain. Twitter was full of pictures of her looking disheveled, pissed up and smoking a cigar. The relevance of which would suggest the culture secretary should be a grade 8 musician, the defence secretary an ex member of the armed forces and the agriculture bod a farmer. Leaving the misogyny aside I can't see why she would be that bad a choice apart from the fact she appears to be a crazed homophobic bigot who can rot in her own particular hell.
 
Ironic that all that could be applied equally to the outgoing PM
His ethos was supplied by Cummimgs and the ERG. Then Covid game him a mission. After Brexit and Covid he was Truss, but with pub joker appeal. Truss doesn't have any of those, and she's too ruthless and irresponsible to make a mission out of keeping poor people alive. Even a Blair comeback would be better.
 
Seems pretty certain that her cabinet will be even worse than that of the incumbent. Are there any likely paths for Starmer forcing a GE when it all goes tits up?

Short awnser is no.

The only thing he could do is move a motion of no confidence but as the tories have an overall majority of 80 seats there is no chance that would work.
 
why does she talk like a robot
I think thats because she had a lot of coaching to get her pronounciation just so, she had a mild impediment, so now she gets the lines she knows she can deliver and sticks to them
 
I think the reason she's chaotic is that she he has no ethos except for wanting to be in charge. She knows she needs a set of beliefs which other people can unite around. She needs a gang of supporters. So she just flails around, trying different things. It's frightening that someone so empty and pointless has got to the top.
I find her empty pointlessness terrifying because people project what they want to see onto that kind of person, knowing it can't clash with any observable reality to the contrary. The people projecting onto Liz Truss in the hope of her becoming their vehicle are far more frightening than her. She's no Thatcher - she's just some old drunk that can't string a sentence together. The names of those already being resurrected from their political graves are chilling to hear.
 
Tragically i think that - unlike johnson - she does have an political ideology - that of loony right wing economic dogma. She co-authored the unhinged "Britannia unchained" pamphlet where British workers were castigated as "the worst idlers" and has made similar comments since. She has the manic zeal of the convert but with no intellectual understanding of what she believes in. So its all "shred workers rights - tax cuts will grow the economy cos trickle down and hostility to dealing with any actual reality that opposes that. so she's luke warm - at best - about climate change mitigation and take a similar fingers in ears "la la la" approach to the cost of living crises.
Someone with similar ideas but more nous (like Thatcher) would be more subtle and choose their moments to push this shite - but not our lizz - she looks dead set to go full steam ahead ...
Its going to be very messy and ugly with her pushing her batshittery.
 
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Tragically i think that - unlike johnson - she does have an political ideology - that of loony right wing economic dogma. She co-authored the unhinged "Britannia unchained" pamphlet where British workers were castigated as "the worst idlers" and has made similar comments since. She has the manic zeal of the convert but with no intellectual understanding of what she believes in. So its all "shred workers rights - tax cuts will grow the economy cos trickle down and hostility to dealing with any actual reality that opposes that. so she's luke warm - at best - about climate change mitigation and take a similar fingers in ears "la la la" approach to the cost of living crises.
Its going to be very messy and ugly with her pushing her batshittery.
Agreed; I think she understands perfectly well the role of the consolidator state, but then again, I think that Johnson also knew that very well; it's just that his preposterous ego/instinct for political survival trumped that ideological belief whenever the SHTF.
 
Don't you think she looks tired?
In days gone past a doctor would have used meth in order to fulfill his social duty to get a bit of character into proceedings. A pm needs energy, intelligence and focus. LT can clearly not perform on one of those but I am sure the Dr's needle could substitute for the others for at least the next two years. FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY
 
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