It is looking like some sort of squash/pumpkin thing soup with herbs and a bean salad BTW.
Living off the land 100%
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not-bono-ever
meh
I would not dig around and slur the good name of someone who walked from Granada to the Ukraine. Apart from his bits on trains for the longer stretches and when it was raining. The problem is Stannington, much of what you post is lies, half truths or outright shite. Even your blog contradicts your revisionist version of fact.
lazythursday
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OK, fair enough. It's absolutely your right to do with your life what you want, but spending somewhere around 50% of your income on drink and tobacco does make it look as though you are something of a slave.
I totally get the impulse to break away from the system as much as possible. I work self employed and the impetus for that was similar. And I know lots of people round here who live on boats / caravans / benders etc, unofficial shed dwellings off the council's radar, that kind of thing, so they don't have to work full time or at all. I suppose I'm a bit sick of hearing the 'I'm free, I'm not a slave to the system speech' from people who actually spend their freedom just getting pissed, which makes you wonder what really is the motivation - to be free(er) from the system to live a fuller life, or to design a cheap lifestyle that doesn't involve getting up in the morning and being presentable so that you can indulge your addiction to the max. It's something that's really quite heartbreaking at times to observe, and it's often coupled with the kind of self-delusion you exhibit.
I have never lied here, nor on my blog. Contradictions may come from responding to others misinterpretations, or lack of humour. Surely no-one believed I thought it would be cool to steal chickens and eggs? I had no real plan other than eating only what I picked in time. I am doing that very comfortably now.
When people quote me saying "I may go without beer" in a context that tries to mean "I will go without beer", then that is their lies and distortion of my truth. Just a single example.
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When I walked across Europe I chose an initial route. I stuck to that route, but occasionally diverted to meet people for work, or just to interview them, or exchange experiences. I often took a train, or bus 'off route', and then returned to the point I left my walking to continue. Initially, I planned to walk through northern Italy, but police made it impossible, so I took a train back to Nice and started a new route through France and then through Germany to Austria. From Austria I walked to Bratislava and then took a long train ride to visit someone in Slovakia. Spent a week, or so there and took trains back to Vienna to work for a couple of weeks to save enough cash to continue by foot to the border with Ukraine. I turned around after crossing the border, and took trains to Berlin (where I worked on an installation for a wedding reception). I met someone who offered me work in Lower Saxony where I stayed for a few weeks before taking trains home to Granada.
I walked a route entirely from Granada to Ukraine.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
I am jealous of your denial.
I am not self-deluded. I travel the World earning a living by sketching and painting, and art stuff. I really, actually do do that, and love to do it. It is very real. I am alive. I am healthier than most people I know of my age. I walk very slowly and experience life to the full. It is fucking ace. If it is all in my own head, then WTF - doesn't really matter anyway does it?
I'm not really denying anything. Life is shit for a couple of days without booze. Then it just gets mildly less tolerable than the other life with booze.
I drink possibly the equivalent of Six English pints a day throughout the day alongside eating very healthily, drinking plenty of water, and sleeping very well. Compared to the stress I watch some people killing themselves with, this is not an unhealthy way to live. A couple of joints at the end of the day is nothing other than beneficial to physical, and mental well being.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Then why do you feel the need to do it in virtually every post?
Have you ever considered a job as a Tory politician? They lie all the time, they abuse disabled people, they're constantly pissed or high on something, they think they're better than everyone else, and their sense of entitlement is off the scale.
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
Given earlier on you said that the absolute minimum beer you drink per day is 8 bottles plus 3 more in a bar, by my calculations that's more like 8 pints of English beer, and that's on a good day. So hmm, 120+ UK units / week, unsure how this can possibly be defined as 'not an unhealthy way to live'. Great that you are free of stress right now but the liver transplant might be stressful down the road.
Show me the lies here. I have never abused a disabled person. Far from it, I often work to help disabled people get more out of life. I am not constantly high - I maintain a comfortable level of alcohol induced stability
I am the equal of everyone. Whether you are in the gutter, or a multimillionaire CEO, I treat you as my equal. My entitlement is to enjoy the life I earn. Nothing more - nothing less.
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Stanley Edwards - genuine question - do you ever feel lonely?
8 pints a day over a long day with very healthy food, plenty of water, and very good sleep. It isn't like I end up in the pub after work quaffing it all in an hour before going to bed.
I am exceptionally healthy. 50KM a day with a 25 Kilo backpack??? You fucking well try it.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Show me the lies here. I have never abused a disabled person. Far from it, I often work to help disabled people get more out of life. I am not constantly high - I maintain a comfortable level of alcohol induced stability
Yes. I love it.
A couple of girls asked me a similar question in Lisbon. They were lovely, genuine people, so I answered honestly. It was more about a partner/girlfriend rather than just loneliness. I told them I had many close female friends all over the place. I enjoy their company greatly, fabulous friendship, nice to always get a female perspective etc, but they are not sexual, or intimate relationships. It isn't really possible to build a long term intimacy with someone when you move as frequently and randomly as I do.
I do not ever feel lonely in a bad way. Far too happy in my own introspective company. However, not having 'that' relationship with a female 'confidant' is something I miss. Plenty of good men friends I can confide in, but whether we like it, or not - we are men who just cannot let go of the macho thing.
Working on the street for much of the day means I have to befriend the street people. Most are men, and it is a very macho environment. I am lucky in so much that I get a lot of respect, and rarely have to put on a hard front. But, a female confidant, or the lack of it, is something I miss. In some ways I miss it so much, I worry if my needs for such company can make me a little bit too needy to many women IYSWIM.
That's a very honest post for all to read. Whether you are male, or female. Honesty doesn't scare me.
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
Well given the amount of alcohol I doubt it's actually good sleep - physiologically alcohol really fucks with your sleep, but never mind. It's clearly not healthy to drink that amount per week no matter what time in the morning you down your first bottle.
30 miles a day carrying a heavy backpack as a middle aged man? Bullshit. I have tried it, I've done lots of hiking and am really pretty fit and I simply don't believe you. Maybe a one-off but not day after day.
Tis true. I even tell multimillionaire CEO's so. Not as often as I tell homeless people so, but I do tell them. And, they appreciate it.
Five days in a row is no problem whatsoever. I could go longer. It is actually piss easy.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh but to be fair the backpack was down to about 5kg by the end of each day when all the beer was drunk
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
Walking 30 miles in a day is a pretty serious challenge even for someone who is really fit. Adding a heavy backpack onto that makes it gruelling. To do that you would need plenty of rest before/after and a serious amount of calories to get you through it - more than the kind of description of meals that you've given on this thread. Something isn't true about your account, likely the mileage or the estimation of your bag weight or the trip to the supermarket or all three.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
also when there are meals described, it's one. it's never 'i've had this that and the other for my lovely breakfast and a nice fish and salad for lunch and this for tea'. it's like there's only one meal a day.
not-bono-ever
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Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
What about all those people who are jealous of your lifestyle? And look at your new watch, that people should obviously be jealous of? Do you class those people as your equal?
Rubbish. Total fucking rubbish.
50KM a day is piss easy regardless. Tiring, but easily done.
I eat extremely healthily. My description of meals on this thread are probably much more nutritional and beneficial than anything you have eaten during the past year. It is all fresh, well balanced and full of energy and protein.
At a steady pace of 6KM/hour.
Leave at 7AM. Walk for 3 hours. 18KM done. Rest for 30 minutes to an hour, walk another 3 hours. 36KM done. Rest again. Eat a little. Walk another 3 hours. 54KM done. You arrive at your destination well before sunset. Plenty of time to eat healthily, sort yourself and get a thorough nights sleep to start again the next day.
This is leisurely hiking. It is no big deal. Once you are in the routine, it really is a very easy day.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
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not-bono-ever
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Fuck off you pathetic shit.
All hail 'Not bono wanker features' the undoubted King of Travelling the now safe ex-communist countries in his hire car on a credit card probably belonging to somebody else. You criticise me for walking through 'poor' Europe whilst paying my way with money I earn living life!
You put some clout behind your accusations, or just fuck off and admit what a total cunt you are.
You sad little fucker.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Oh Stan, believe me you are. I've always drunk well over the recommended levels, but kept very fit & healthy, I am older than you and yet up to a year ago I even had a a decent six-pack, not many guys in their mid 50s can claim that. Even then I knew I was drinking too much.
Shit happened a year ago, well 3 loads of different shit happened, and I started drinking more, when my plan had been to cut down, slowly it's built-up, I am now almost at your level. I still function & I still enjoy life, but I recognise I am drinking way too much, that whilst I am still fairly fit & healthy at the moment, if I continue on this path, I am storing up problems. Major problems.
That's why I am seeking help & treatment to 're-set' myself to a more reasonable level of consumption, I seriously suggest you consider doing the same.
Drinking that amount, and claiming it's not a problem, is just kidding yourself.
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