I say!
Don't bother. You Eton chaps are all the same.
Don't bother. You Eton chaps are all the same.
Living Bar: Racist
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isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
I am not Larry!
John Wisehammer
lifestyle trendy vicar
Larry is a manifestation of our dark and twisted selfish impulses. Like Satan, he's a metaphor more than a person. We are all Larry.
I know nothing about old boy networks. But this:
Some have thrown in comments which seem to judge someone by what school they went to. what actually makes this any better than judging someone for the colour of their skin, sexual preference etc?
A child born into a favela or with a silver spoon has no choice in the matter. it is what you DO with your life that counts. surely that should be the main focus of this? so why not get back to the real issues: allegations of racism etc, and positive solutions for dealing with community issues.
I do not know lawrence. it is quite possible that he does not know about this debate. would it not make sense for one of the moderators to get in touch with him to both verify this and look at ways to address all issues raised here?
Thanks & its been, how should i put this? interesting. S&F
Some have thrown in comments which seem to judge someone by what school they went to. what actually makes this any better than judging someone for the colour of their skin, sexual preference etc?
A child born into a favela or with a silver spoon has no choice in the matter. it is what you DO with your life that counts. surely that should be the main focus of this? so why not get back to the real issues: allegations of racism etc, and positive solutions for dealing with community issues.
I do not know lawrence. it is quite possible that he does not know about this debate. would it not make sense for one of the moderators to get in touch with him to both verify this and look at ways to address all issues raised here?
Thanks & its been, how should i put this? interesting. S&F
bad form
I think you'll find the Eton crack was a joke.
Surely, there's a long, long tradition in the UK of laughing at public school boys - Monty Python, Harry Enfield, the great Vic Lambrusco...?
In fact, what's the point of HAVING a public school system unless everyone laughs at it? What other function does it serve, except to amuse the nation?
<edited to change "pubic" to "public." Sorry!>
I think you'll find the Eton crack was a joke.
Surely, there's a long, long tradition in the UK of laughing at public school boys - Monty Python, Harry Enfield, the great Vic Lambrusco...?
In fact, what's the point of HAVING a public school system unless everyone laughs at it? What other function does it serve, except to amuse the nation?
<edited to change "pubic" to "public." Sorry!>
Hmmmm......... funny that. The public school twats at my university certainly judged ME by what school I went to.
Oh, and whoever originally spelled 'hypocracy' (sic) like that, it certainly wasn't me. I bet it was Anna Key!!
Dangerous???
Have you run away???
Was it something we said?
Have you run away???
Was it something we said?
WATERHOUSE
New Member
living Bar? or dead Bar?
I am now registered, so if anyone wants to direct this discussion my way, feel free. I have mailed Hatboy my reply to my initial thread, which has been 'in my eyes' effective thus far.
WATERHOUSE.
I am now registered, so if anyone wants to direct this discussion my way, feel free. I have mailed Hatboy my reply to my initial thread, which has been 'in my eyes' effective thus far.
WATERHOUSE.
WELCOME Mr Waterhouse.
This is an extract from the thread 'I went to the living room the other night..."
I'm writing what follows on the assumption that this was indeed Mr Lawrence Merrett describing, in his own words, Living Bar's door policy.
I can't prove that it wasn't someone impersonating him. This seems unlikey. Should it turn out not to have been Mr Merrett I shall withdraw this post immediately.
Living Bar door policy, on the date of the posting, clearly discriminated on grounds of gender: people were being refused entry to the bar on grounds of sex.
Sex discrimination has been generally illegal in the UK since about 1975.
Such a door policy would also discriminate, indirectly, against gay men, as a man is less likely to gain entry to the bar compared to a woman.
Accordingly, Living Bar door policy, on the date of the posting, was clearly discriminating on grounds of sexuality.
Discrimination against gay men is not illegal in the UK, but is highly immoral. A bar doing it should be exposed.
The Pink Paper and Stonewall are likely to be interested in this.
Lambeth Council Licensing Committee will also be concerned. The Council, at least on paper, enforces an equal opportunities policy, which includes opposition to discrimination on grounds of sexuality.
I'd like to know if Living Bar's door policy operating on 5/7/01 still applies.
If not, why was it ever applied? What will Mr Merrett do to make up for enforcing such a policy?
If the policy still applies, it stinks.
This is an extract from the thread 'I went to the living room the other night..."
I'm writing what follows on the assumption that this was indeed Mr Lawrence Merrett describing, in his own words, Living Bar's door policy.
I can't prove that it wasn't someone impersonating him. This seems unlikey. Should it turn out not to have been Mr Merrett I shall withdraw this post immediately.
Living Bar door policy, on the date of the posting, clearly discriminated on grounds of gender: people were being refused entry to the bar on grounds of sex.
Sex discrimination has been generally illegal in the UK since about 1975.
Such a door policy would also discriminate, indirectly, against gay men, as a man is less likely to gain entry to the bar compared to a woman.
Accordingly, Living Bar door policy, on the date of the posting, was clearly discriminating on grounds of sexuality.
Discrimination against gay men is not illegal in the UK, but is highly immoral. A bar doing it should be exposed.
The Pink Paper and Stonewall are likely to be interested in this.
Lambeth Council Licensing Committee will also be concerned. The Council, at least on paper, enforces an equal opportunities policy, which includes opposition to discrimination on grounds of sexuality.
I'd like to know if Living Bar's door policy operating on 5/7/01 still applies.
If not, why was it ever applied? What will Mr Merrett do to make up for enforcing such a policy?
If the policy still applies, it stinks.
WATERHOUSE
New Member
Dear All,
It seems my letter has ‘picked the scab’ off of one of our local festering wounds. Liable, slander, defamation of character, are all terms applied when a blatant untruth is told about a person. I don’t need to slander a lifeform of Mr. Merritt’s evolution. He does that all for himself.
I have visited the site and read all of the threads posted. I would like to reply in general to the people who believe this is a personal ‘rant’ by myself about the ‘man’, and the rest of the sofa dwellers too wrapped up in their own problems to notice what’s happening around them to care.
It may seem out of character for a ‘black’ man from ‘Brixton’, like myself, to respond in such a manner. With measured thought, intelligence. Sorry to disappoint you.
My true stereotype should be outside the bar with about 50-60 black men, waiting to see why we aren’t allowed to come in, directly ready to ‘kick off’. I actually think that is what most people would expect, except no-one has anything to gain from such behaviour. We would be living up to the expectations of all those folk who feel safe in their cosy, but sadly, racist pocket in Brixton. I have lived in Brixton long enough to see the positive changes in the community. I feel there is a need to protect these developments and not take a step backwards. We don’t need or want rioting in the streets!
To those of you who are incredulous at the calling of the ‘man’ racist, I have only one thing to say... Until you have had someone look you in the eye, spit in your face and call you a “nigger”, you have no authority in the definition of who or what is a racist. I have worked at his bar for over a year, and I have clearly seen his attitudes towards black people. They are inexcusable and should not be allowed to continue unchallenged. He is not an idiot either. Using black doormen to turn away black people is the ‘softly, softly’ approach and not likely to create a scene, as would the contrary if the doorman were white. Most people in those professions are bound by the management’s wishes and have to comply, otherwise no more work. Plus, its easy money if you’re just a stormtrooper, following orders.
However, it makes no difference as the majority of the curious black population of Brixton seem to have gotten the ‘message’ by now.
‘Gentrification’, such a nice word. Except it applies to gentlemen. ‘True capitalist’, more to the point, but lets go back about 250 years. ‘Disposable workforce’, slaves by any other name. All the makings of a good plantation. Well done ‘Massa Merritt. It was only 50 years ago when the last white ONLY bars were begrudgingly converted for the use by ‘coloured folk’ in America. Where is this ‘man’s’ head at? Does he think he’s Dr.Who or something? Time travel is impossible!
To all the people who have frequented the bar, had a good time, etc... I have had some amazing times at his bar. Yes, it is a lovely venue. Comfortable. I treated it like my own Living room. Turn off the music, flashing lights, sober up... He’s taking your money and he doesn’t give a fuck. About you or anyone in fact. Business, by any means necessary. Which brings me nicely into the planning permission fiasco.
I was surprised to read of the cheek of the ‘man’, obviously ‘above the law’ with cash to spare, getting away with whatever Lambeth lets him. I wonder who got the ‘gravel driveway’ at local government? Such accusations! To even think of it.... is enough. What else can you do? Why haven’t any other businesses in the vicinity built without permission? Maybe it has something to do with being law-abiding and honest. No respect for the law, the community or its inhabitants. Blatant. As noted, I am sure other boroughs would be less lenient. As would their communities, trendy or not.
Finally to all who feel this is ‘all a bit too uncomfortable’, and have some sympathetic notions towards this ‘little man’.
With one letter I have opened a genuine forum for discussion. I have not lied or embellished my account. I will stand in any court of law and reiterate my opinion. Either Mr.Merritt is a ’man’ who has made it his mission to really annoy Brixtonians to the point of explosion, because of his attitudes and practices in Brixton or I and many other members of this community are just ‘jealous of his successes’ and we are just being ‘vindictive’.
Bullshit. He’s a SCUMBAG!! through and through! All the talk about him being mixed-race don’t mean squat. If you don’t like black people, you don’t. Whether you’re Chinese or whatever. If that’s the way you are, you are not likely to change. Until you are educated enough to realise all races make up this world. I don’t think social anthropology was one of his strongest subjects. Such a waste of a blue chip education.
Mr Merritt knows who I am. I have spoken the truth and he knows it! If he can HONESTLY defend his honour like a true ‘man’, with balls, he may gain enough respect from me to look at under an electron microscope. I doubt very much that he will have anything honest to say in his defence of my claims, as he tends to stutter under pressure.
To all who agree with me and feel the same about this social pariah we have acquired......Keep telling the truth. Because the truth hurts.
WATERHOUSE.
It seems my letter has ‘picked the scab’ off of one of our local festering wounds. Liable, slander, defamation of character, are all terms applied when a blatant untruth is told about a person. I don’t need to slander a lifeform of Mr. Merritt’s evolution. He does that all for himself.
I have visited the site and read all of the threads posted. I would like to reply in general to the people who believe this is a personal ‘rant’ by myself about the ‘man’, and the rest of the sofa dwellers too wrapped up in their own problems to notice what’s happening around them to care.
It may seem out of character for a ‘black’ man from ‘Brixton’, like myself, to respond in such a manner. With measured thought, intelligence. Sorry to disappoint you.
My true stereotype should be outside the bar with about 50-60 black men, waiting to see why we aren’t allowed to come in, directly ready to ‘kick off’. I actually think that is what most people would expect, except no-one has anything to gain from such behaviour. We would be living up to the expectations of all those folk who feel safe in their cosy, but sadly, racist pocket in Brixton. I have lived in Brixton long enough to see the positive changes in the community. I feel there is a need to protect these developments and not take a step backwards. We don’t need or want rioting in the streets!
To those of you who are incredulous at the calling of the ‘man’ racist, I have only one thing to say... Until you have had someone look you in the eye, spit in your face and call you a “nigger”, you have no authority in the definition of who or what is a racist. I have worked at his bar for over a year, and I have clearly seen his attitudes towards black people. They are inexcusable and should not be allowed to continue unchallenged. He is not an idiot either. Using black doormen to turn away black people is the ‘softly, softly’ approach and not likely to create a scene, as would the contrary if the doorman were white. Most people in those professions are bound by the management’s wishes and have to comply, otherwise no more work. Plus, its easy money if you’re just a stormtrooper, following orders.
However, it makes no difference as the majority of the curious black population of Brixton seem to have gotten the ‘message’ by now.
‘Gentrification’, such a nice word. Except it applies to gentlemen. ‘True capitalist’, more to the point, but lets go back about 250 years. ‘Disposable workforce’, slaves by any other name. All the makings of a good plantation. Well done ‘Massa Merritt. It was only 50 years ago when the last white ONLY bars were begrudgingly converted for the use by ‘coloured folk’ in America. Where is this ‘man’s’ head at? Does he think he’s Dr.Who or something? Time travel is impossible!
To all the people who have frequented the bar, had a good time, etc... I have had some amazing times at his bar. Yes, it is a lovely venue. Comfortable. I treated it like my own Living room. Turn off the music, flashing lights, sober up... He’s taking your money and he doesn’t give a fuck. About you or anyone in fact. Business, by any means necessary. Which brings me nicely into the planning permission fiasco.
I was surprised to read of the cheek of the ‘man’, obviously ‘above the law’ with cash to spare, getting away with whatever Lambeth lets him. I wonder who got the ‘gravel driveway’ at local government? Such accusations! To even think of it.... is enough. What else can you do? Why haven’t any other businesses in the vicinity built without permission? Maybe it has something to do with being law-abiding and honest. No respect for the law, the community or its inhabitants. Blatant. As noted, I am sure other boroughs would be less lenient. As would their communities, trendy or not.
Finally to all who feel this is ‘all a bit too uncomfortable’, and have some sympathetic notions towards this ‘little man’.
With one letter I have opened a genuine forum for discussion. I have not lied or embellished my account. I will stand in any court of law and reiterate my opinion. Either Mr.Merritt is a ’man’ who has made it his mission to really annoy Brixtonians to the point of explosion, because of his attitudes and practices in Brixton or I and many other members of this community are just ‘jealous of his successes’ and we are just being ‘vindictive’.
Bullshit. He’s a SCUMBAG!! through and through! All the talk about him being mixed-race don’t mean squat. If you don’t like black people, you don’t. Whether you’re Chinese or whatever. If that’s the way you are, you are not likely to change. Until you are educated enough to realise all races make up this world. I don’t think social anthropology was one of his strongest subjects. Such a waste of a blue chip education.
Mr Merritt knows who I am. I have spoken the truth and he knows it! If he can HONESTLY defend his honour like a true ‘man’, with balls, he may gain enough respect from me to look at under an electron microscope. I doubt very much that he will have anything honest to say in his defence of my claims, as he tends to stutter under pressure.
To all who agree with me and feel the same about this social pariah we have acquired......Keep telling the truth. Because the truth hurts.
WATERHOUSE.
WATERHOUSE
New Member
LIVING? or HIDING?
Mr. Retro you are obviously an intellegent person. You said it before I wrote it.
Mr. Retro you are obviously an intellegent person. You said it before I wrote it.
WATERHOUSE
New Member
I hear voices too!
For the record -
FROM "FELIX" TO RICHARD WATERHOUSE:
Too damb right!
I noticed this some time ago, I dont go in there, and although I would love to have a regular Brixton gig, haven't replied to his request for new promoters for LIVING, RED STAR, and PLAY.
It's fucked up, I have heard from the previous manager of LIVING that Lawence even asked him not to let any 'Niggers' in on the opening night, as well as the manager of the RED STAR asking Jools Butterfield to stop playing 'Nigger' music (I'm quoting this, they both really did use that term). This is obviously some kind of segregation that Lawence is trying to promote, I dont know were he thinks it will get him, but its sertainly not getting him any love or respect from this quarter. In fact the only thing this kind of segregation promotes is distrust, disunity, resentment, and hatred, which do nothing for the state of the comunity, and will only get worse if this matter is not adressed. I've been boycoting them for some time, but wonder if this is what Lawence wants, as the fewer open minded people who frequent his establishment, the more his narrow minded views are allowed to grow. I hope that your campaign has more impact, maybe even getting this matter included in the institutionalised racism debate that Lambeth Council are conducting at the moment. Retract his license, Brixton is a multi-cultural community, but there is no place for the apparteid culture that he is overtly promoting.
Peace.
Felix
This is NOT a VENDETTA, just simple truths.
OUCH!
<re-arranged slightly for clarity>
For the record -
FROM "FELIX" TO RICHARD WATERHOUSE:
Too damb right!
I noticed this some time ago, I dont go in there, and although I would love to have a regular Brixton gig, haven't replied to his request for new promoters for LIVING, RED STAR, and PLAY.
It's fucked up, I have heard from the previous manager of LIVING that Lawence even asked him not to let any 'Niggers' in on the opening night, as well as the manager of the RED STAR asking Jools Butterfield to stop playing 'Nigger' music (I'm quoting this, they both really did use that term). This is obviously some kind of segregation that Lawence is trying to promote, I dont know were he thinks it will get him, but its sertainly not getting him any love or respect from this quarter. In fact the only thing this kind of segregation promotes is distrust, disunity, resentment, and hatred, which do nothing for the state of the comunity, and will only get worse if this matter is not adressed. I've been boycoting them for some time, but wonder if this is what Lawence wants, as the fewer open minded people who frequent his establishment, the more his narrow minded views are allowed to grow. I hope that your campaign has more impact, maybe even getting this matter included in the institutionalised racism debate that Lambeth Council are conducting at the moment. Retract his license, Brixton is a multi-cultural community, but there is no place for the apparteid culture that he is overtly promoting.
Peace.
Felix
This is NOT a VENDETTA, just simple truths.OUCH!
<re-arranged slightly for clarity>
John Wisehammer
lifestyle trendy vicar
If you lose all the irrelevant bollocks about plantations (not least because slaves specifically aren't disposable or flexible workforces, part of the reason they disappeared), those are interesting posts there (if a bit confusing to read - is it Felix Waterhouse and Stuart Noble, two different people?).
But if the man's such a obvious cunt and "everyone knows it", why did you work for him for so long? I'm sure you'll realise that it looks (as somone that doesn't know either you or this Larry punter and is just going by what's written here) a bit odd for you to work for him for two years then turn around and tell so many stories about racism and other scummy behaviour right from day one. Obviously this is an individual question about you - but when you're putting forward individual opinions and experiences, then I think it's a fair question. (And don't get me wrong - it's fair enough to say that you enjoyed the work and liked the wages - most of us have to work for a living and there aren't that many people who love everything about their job).
But if the man's such a obvious cunt and "everyone knows it", why did you work for him for so long? I'm sure you'll realise that it looks (as somone that doesn't know either you or this Larry punter and is just going by what's written here) a bit odd for you to work for him for two years then turn around and tell so many stories about racism and other scummy behaviour right from day one. Obviously this is an individual question about you - but when you're putting forward individual opinions and experiences, then I think it's a fair question. (And don't get me wrong - it's fair enough to say that you enjoyed the work and liked the wages - most of us have to work for a living and there aren't that many people who love everything about their job).
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
I was originally pleased to see the investment in the area but my enthusiasm waned fast. I have seen lots of documents relating to Living in particular but his other businesses too and the fact that there has been collating of stuff like that for quite some time by concerned residents first made me think maybe the investment was a a bit of a Trojan Horse.
I am better able to comment on the goings on at Living in better detail because I have to wait ages for the P5 at differing times of the day or night. Living is directly opposite. I have seen people being turned away regularly. I know people who have been turned away. With one exception they were black or gay.........
I have heard local residents complain about the thumping bass in the middle of the night, how Merrett seems to flout planning laws with impunity (I have heard rumours that he has a little friend in the planning department. I have no idea if this is true or not). He is not at all respected by local businesses or people. A really quiet gentle person that runs a local business has actually been driven to something approaching hatred of the man. A lot of people that I respect are active in their desire to rid the area of what they regard as his malign influence.
I am better able to comment on the goings on at Living in better detail because I have to wait ages for the P5 at differing times of the day or night. Living is directly opposite. I have seen people being turned away regularly. I know people who have been turned away. With one exception they were black or gay.........
I have heard local residents complain about the thumping bass in the middle of the night, how Merrett seems to flout planning laws with impunity (I have heard rumours that he has a little friend in the planning department. I have no idea if this is true or not). He is not at all respected by local businesses or people. A really quiet gentle person that runs a local business has actually been driven to something approaching hatred of the man. A lot of people that I respect are active in their desire to rid the area of what they regard as his malign influence.
This is a very serious issue - ie a racist bar in Brixton. Pease can we keep to the subject.
What is the point of Mr Merrit coming on here? He's been on here before and how ever reasonable he may seem many people, including myself and Richard above, have experienced or witnessed his racism and generally supercilious behavior to all around him.
I know Mr Merrit and some of you are not aware that I used to work for him at the Dogstar six years ago. His interest in the Dogstar at that time was as great as his interest in Living now.
While I had fun working at the Dogstar, Laurence and his shitty attitude to everyone there (except total arselickers, the only ones who utimately rise in his organization) was a constant problem.
We eventually parted company. I was sacked but it was a relief really and was brewing for awhile. I think I was about to leave anyway. Why did I go? In fairness I don't take to being ordered about and I was probably drinking abit too much on the job. However I was also very good at the job of welcoming and entertaining people at the door of the club/bar. The MAIN REASON I went was that I couldn't stand Laurence's racism anymore. As fast as I got people into the bar/club he was ejecting them, and it was always black men getting chucked out!
Some examples of Mr Merrit's attitude:
Often he would point at a black man with dreads while I was on the door of the club and say to me within their earshot, "Is that a dealer, is that a dealer? He hadn't got a clue who was who and just went on his naive ideas on who was a "low-life" (his word).
When I once remarked how well I was getting on with a particular security man who worked with me at the Dogstar (who is still a close friend) and is black Laurence said "Oh yes, he's like one of us isn't he?"
Several black friends of mine have been accused of "making people nervous" or drug dealing in the Dogstar or Living.
A black musician I know was persistently refused admission at the Dogstar until he explained that he was there on business. Then he was grudgingly admitted.
The whole thing stinks. Have no doubt of that.
What is the point of Mr Merrit coming on here? He's been on here before and how ever reasonable he may seem many people, including myself and Richard above, have experienced or witnessed his racism and generally supercilious behavior to all around him.
I know Mr Merrit and some of you are not aware that I used to work for him at the Dogstar six years ago. His interest in the Dogstar at that time was as great as his interest in Living now.
While I had fun working at the Dogstar, Laurence and his shitty attitude to everyone there (except total arselickers, the only ones who utimately rise in his organization) was a constant problem.
We eventually parted company. I was sacked but it was a relief really and was brewing for awhile. I think I was about to leave anyway. Why did I go? In fairness I don't take to being ordered about and I was probably drinking abit too much on the job. However I was also very good at the job of welcoming and entertaining people at the door of the club/bar. The MAIN REASON I went was that I couldn't stand Laurence's racism anymore. As fast as I got people into the bar/club he was ejecting them, and it was always black men getting chucked out!
Some examples of Mr Merrit's attitude:
Often he would point at a black man with dreads while I was on the door of the club and say to me within their earshot, "Is that a dealer, is that a dealer? He hadn't got a clue who was who and just went on his naive ideas on who was a "low-life" (his word).
When I once remarked how well I was getting on with a particular security man who worked with me at the Dogstar (who is still a close friend) and is black Laurence said "Oh yes, he's like one of us isn't he?"
Several black friends of mine have been accused of "making people nervous" or drug dealing in the Dogstar or Living.
A black musician I know was persistently refused admission at the Dogstar until he explained that he was there on business. Then he was grudgingly admitted.
The whole thing stinks. Have no doubt of that.
Well now it is time for action. We all know what he is and how he operates - regardless of the lies he may tell in his defence. (Mike - where is the other "Living" thread. The link is dead). If you don't know, then get to know.
This needs to move beyond Brixton pub conversations and web banter.
This needs to move beyond Brixton pub conversations and web banter.
Hold it, Hatboy! You may know that Merritt is racist - or you may simply believe that he is. If you're chucking statements like 'Well now it is time for action...This needs to move beyond Brixton pub conversations and web banter.' at us, we need to be convinced. I don't have the direct experience of Mr Merritt that some people here clearly do, and what I'd say I see so far is a strong case for the prosecution rather than a proved case. If he's definitely racist, then please argue the case fully to people like m.e
WATERHOUSE
New Member
exploitation reversal
Originally posted by John Wisehammer
But if the man's such a obvious cunt and "everyone knows it", why did you work for him for so long?
It is unfortunate that whatever a persons circumstances are they are in a corner and need the money. People are trying to make headway any way they can. Conveniently wealthy and a cunt...... fair play! but you can only take so much before you have to say goodbaye to the bollocks. Exploiting the Exploiter!
Answer your question John?
WATERHOUSE
Hatboy is right ...
I am continuing to be stunned at this thread! Good luck to all hoping for a decent and fair resolution to this disgraceful saga ...
I am continuing to be stunned at this thread! Good luck to all hoping for a decent and fair resolution to this disgraceful saga ...
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Waterhouse joined the debate and I must take isue with a couple of points...
This is a an offensive slur on everyone here. Justify this crap eh?
Further...
This is not true either, I have strong opinions on racism and do not need anyone bestowing upon me the right to hold them.
Racism can affect all sorts of people and there are enough racists of all colours in Brixton and elsewhere.
Waterhouse in my view hardly has much authority here as he was complicit in enforcing the racism of Mr Living Room.
We all need to make money but I feel we can decide how much shit to eat for our cash and he went way too far.
I personally much preferred the Coach and Horses and The Atlantic to their reincarnations as trendy style bars for white Clapham wankers. Consequently I have never been in the Dog Awful or Living.
I would appeal to everyone not to spend any more money in these establishments.
Arson as a "solution" is totally out of order and counter productive, however a huge tin of pink paint thrown up the side of Living might get the point across, especially if repeated a few times, cheap too.
This is a an offensive slur on everyone here. Justify this crap eh?
Further...
This is not true either, I have strong opinions on racism and do not need anyone bestowing upon me the right to hold them.
Racism can affect all sorts of people and there are enough racists of all colours in Brixton and elsewhere.
Waterhouse in my view hardly has much authority here as he was complicit in enforcing the racism of Mr Living Room.
We all need to make money but I feel we can decide how much shit to eat for our cash and he went way too far.
I personally much preferred the Coach and Horses and The Atlantic to their reincarnations as trendy style bars for white Clapham wankers. Consequently I have never been in the Dog Awful or Living.
I would appeal to everyone not to spend any more money in these establishments.
Arson as a "solution" is totally out of order and counter productive, however a huge tin of pink paint thrown up the side of Living might get the point across, especially if repeated a few times, cheap too.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
Unfortunately this issue is not new. I remember when the LivingRoom first opened - within a few weeks there was a debate on the messageboards on Brixtonline.co.uk about not only the racist attitudes of the door staff, but also of the bar staff - not serving black people who were at the bar etc. It's a shame that after the 2/3 years or whatever that they've been opened, they're still getting away with this attitude.
Topcat has a point there Richard (Waterhouse). Give people here some credit for being mostly reasonably informed and non-racist please.
I don't think it's fair to say "you shouldn't have worked for him then" Topcat. Laurence's attitudes are cumulative. You might or might not notice them on one visit to his bar. But working for him becomes increasingly difficult for any open-minded, non-racist person as time goes on. I know since I also worked for him some years ago.
I have now met Richard and he speaks the truth about Mr Merrit. I urge others here to support him. I shall be.
I don't think it's fair to say "you shouldn't have worked for him then" Topcat. Laurence's attitudes are cumulative. You might or might not notice them on one visit to his bar. But working for him becomes increasingly difficult for any open-minded, non-racist person as time goes on. I know since I also worked for him some years ago.
I have now met Richard and he speaks the truth about Mr Merrit. I urge others here to support him. I shall be.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Well perhaps I was being too harsh, but personally I would never drink at the two establishments let alone work for the fucker.
It was never a surprise to me that when it kicked off a while back down the lane the Dog awful was one of the first places turned over.
Hit the git where it hurts him most...in the wallet...
It was never a surprise to me that when it kicked off a while back down the lane the Dog awful was one of the first places turned over.
Hit the git where it hurts him most...in the wallet...
Brixton Hatter's right, I was around when it opened. Some annoyed customers wrote the following on living website .
David Jenner: YEAH. THEY DON'T LIKE BLACKS THERE!
01/06/01 , 15:18:11
Geelow: What a yuppiefied piece of crap. stinks big time. Jus for rich & white ; NAZIS
01/06/01 , 02:53:14
Brad: What the fuck is "couples only" supposed to mean?
16/05/01 , 17:22:24
David Jenner: YEAH. THEY DON'T LIKE BLACKS THERE!
01/06/01 , 15:18:11
Geelow: What a yuppiefied piece of crap. stinks big time. Jus for rich & white ; NAZIS
01/06/01 , 02:53:14
Brad: What the fuck is "couples only" supposed to mean?
16/05/01 , 17:22:24
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