Living Bar: Racist

[WATERHOUSE]

Originally posted by TopCat
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This is a an offensive slur on everyone here. Justify this crap eh?

To be completely clear about what I mean, I am attempting to describe the level of control I have at the moment. Sure it would be easy to lose it and get banged up for a useless act of violence or as you suggested criminal damage. But who will win that battle? Not us. Who will have to clean it up? One of his house slaves who would probably be sacked for not doing a good enough job.

I have referred to actual events which I feel have even affected me with regard to racism. I just happen to be black, so maybe I am more passionate about this situation....and Brixton is my manor

It is not my intention to offend anyone, so take it easy Read into the text TC

WATERHOUSE

 

[Streathamite]

It may seem out of character for a ‘black’ man from ‘Brixton’, like myself, to respond in such a manner. With measured thought, intelligence. Sorry to disappoint you.

Richard, I've met a lot of people who post here - not one of them indulges in racism or Racial Stereotypes. That comment was unworthy of you.
Right, that over with, I'm 100% with you on this. This man must be fought with every legal weapon possible. So - what to do?
I think leaflets & pickets are a good idea. As are affidavits from felix and Stuart Noble, and yourself (we'd need those on the leaflet, to avoid a libel suit). Can anyone interested in meeting up to rough out a leaflet please PM me.

 

[bellies]

I never liked the place for purely asthetic reasons.


Brixton is a great night out though, Bug bar, Dogstar and the Albert are great.

Was anyone in the Albert when that weird theatre group did a xmas play? I think is was on the saturday before xmas?

 

[WATERHOUSE]

OK OK OK Already....

I apologise globally to the forum.
Initially, after reading the threads, I had formed an opinion of my own. Is'nt this what its all about?

Angry, pissed off and generally surprised by some of the responses my reply was not aimed at those out there who are giving support.

Anyone else?

WATERHOUSE

 

[Dr Maboozer]

<overtaken by events>

 

[Bond]

Defintely agree with Bellies about Bug Bar and Albert.

 

[Streathamite]

Richard (Waterhouse) - well said (last post). We need a campaign. We can use this thread to organise one.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

Part of the Merrett Empire, although Larry no longer is (on paper anyway, as I understand) directly involved with the running now, is the Dogstar. I have, in the last 48 hours, been informed of two disturbing incidents at the Dogstar. The first involves racism, the second is a policy of serving short measures.

A group of young black men have been regularly attending the Drum '' Bass nights on thursdays. They were used to being 'shadowed' by one of the security guys when they were in there but put up with it because they liked the music. Last thursday one of them had arranged to meet his girlfriends mother there, as usual. She waited all evening because they were all refused entry. There have been no incidents involving these guys, they have always behaved well, and they all believe it to be racism as they have always been treated in a sub-standard way in there, they strongly believe it is because they are black men. I heard this from the mother who waited in the Dogstar all evening.

Today something happened that is a job for Trading Standards, and probably whoever grants an alcohol license to the Dogstar.. Three young men were waiting to be seved in the Dogstar and they saw a paper marked 'Staff Policy'. It stated that takings were down and therefore short measures were to be served to customers asking for spirits.. As they were reading this, someone saw, the paper was snatched from them and they were thrown out onto the street. I was told this in person, and all three are willing to sign legal documents to confirm what they saw. As far as I am concerned deliberately serving short measures is THEFT.

 

[Dr Maboozer]

Originally posted by Mrs Magpie
A group of young black men ... were all refused entry.

Would we gain anything by getting these incidents on film?

 

[Mrs Magpie]

Unfortunately I think it may well be far harder to prove racism than the trading standards and planning stuff. Black women are allowed in (probably seen as exotic and non-threatening!) I know most Asian men are allowed in but if those who have been refused entry for they believe are racist reasons are prepared to sign a legal document, it would be hard to refute. I have only heard of gays and lesbians being refused entry to Living. However, I think, having heard the increasing rumours of Larry's cheques bouncing, perhaps he may in the end just be a victim of his lifestyle...........I for one would cheer loudly if the receivers were called in at any point in the future.

 

[William of Walworth]

Prosecute the fuckers ...

Today something happened that is a job for Trading Standards, and probably whoever grants an alcohol license to the Dogstar.. Three young men were waiting to be seved in the Dogstar and they saw a paper marked 'Staff Policy'. It stated that takings were down and therefore short measures were to be served to customers asking for spirits.. As they were reading this, someone saw, the paper was snatched from them and they were thrown out onto the street. I was told this in person, and all three are willing to sign legal documents to confirm what they saw. As far as I am concerned deliberately serving short measures is THEFT.

 

[Streathamite]

Mrs M (again, congratters to yourself and Mr M!) would these chaps swear affidavits to that effect? And does anyone here have mates amongst m'learned friends, who will help out gratis?

 

[WATERHOUSE]

All persons interested in getting together to plan a campaign, please contact me via p.m.

We have all done a lot of talking and a brainstorming is required.

 

[hatboy]

PLEASE SUPPORT

As I said above I've met with Richard and I said I'd try and motivate afew people on this. Would Mrs M, Anna Key and others who care about this PLEASE PM Richard Waterhouse so he can co-ordinate a meeting.

 

[WATERHOUSE]

Well its Sunday, I'm still waiting to hear from people.
I do find it tiresome but its got to be done.

Has anyone got the e-mail for Town Planning?

Do we know who to contact in local govt.?

Anyone got a spare copy of the Race Relations Act
(amended 2000) lying around?

Does anyone want to buy a silver BMW z3? I heard theres one for sale.

WATERHOUSE

 

[hatboy]

Come on people, this is important.

Richard - have you checked your PMs (in "user cp" at the top of the page)?

 

[IntoStella]

Originally posted by WATERHOUSE
Does anyone want to buy a silver BMW z3? I heard theres one for sale.
WATERHOUSE

.....''One spineless owner....
Apply to Obergruppenstylebarfuehrer.....''

PS WH, I'm sure you can find the race relations act online. Try the CRE website

 

[WATERHOUSE]

PM's

Figured out where the msgs were

Back to that nasty bit of business we need to do.

Everyone who PM'd me, Thanks.
I have some free time coming up, and I hope to get this together in that time.

Yes Hatboy. This is important.

Thanx to all.
Waterhouse.

 

[WATERHOUSE]

serving short measures is THEFT. [/B][/QUOTE]

 

[Aitch]

I too was told by reliable source about the Dogstar measures. Also I was in the Dogstar on Saturday night coz Clown Warfare etc was playing. my boyfriend is black and both of us noticed that every five minuted security were coming over and giving us the eyeball at first we found it funny after a while it got annoying I did eventually ask one if he had a problem and he sheepishly shrugged his shoulders, it really felt like we were under a microscope. shame

Music was wicked though

 

[Anna Key]

I hope that performers at dogstar/living/mass/redstar/play etc have read this thread, or will shortly. Some of them post on U75.

I look at the dogstar etc programme and either know for certain or strongly suspect that every perfomer is anti-discrimination and pro-diversity who respects Brixton and would hate what's described on this thread.

A legitimate question then:-

Why take the Merrett shilling? Ignorance? Poverty? A platform to pursue a greater good?

Perhaps they could refer Mr Merrett to this thread before performing and ask for an assurance that it's all untrue?

Alternatively they could perform elsewhere.

I know this is difficult - people have their own priorities and children must be fed. I'm not telling anyone where to perform. Just asking people to read this thread and to think about it.

 

[Dr Maboozer]

I think the security at dogstar/living/mass/redstar/play is provided by Panther Security.

 

[WATERHOUSE]

Money talks, Bullshit walks.

Originally posted by Anna Key
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Why take the Merrett shilling? Ignorance? Poverty? A platform to pursue a greater good?


I worked in the bar @ LIVING because I enjoyed it. It was a laugh we actually had fun, and fun was had by all. But I got sick of being tolerated because I was cool, and the DJ.

Watching my friends being abused one by one.

Then, it was'nt fun anymore Then, after seeing and watching the way the place operated, and hearing all the derogatory crap originating from our 'favourite person'. I had to go.

Money is money, we all know its value.
Principle and morality are not so lucrative.
But I'd rather be poor than a sell-out house boy.
Some people lack that strength.
Some people are'nt even aware they are only being used.
Some can't go cause' they've got nowhere to go to.

The only positive thing was a wicked mixture of different cultures,
which as you know is not LIVING's policy.

Shame.

WATERHOUSE

P.S. He really is a cunt.

 

[hatboy]

Too right! - A man who is not only without integrity, but who doesn't even realise integrity is worth having.

 

[dia1964]

how absolutely fucking disgusting...... however why the hell am i surprised??? this fucking country seems to still be so fucking racist, that i am seriously thinking about leaving....i was born and raised here, in london, and i want to know how the hell does someone get away with having a night like this one at the living bar????? do people realise that racism is a killer?? people kill,are killed, or kill themselves because of this sick fucking shit..... do people realize what racism does to the brain/mind....i could go on and on, but i say BOYCOTT the damn place..... black people REALLY NEED to stop taking this fucking outrageous shit. fuck the living bar, and fuck racism.

 

[LDR]

Originally posted by dia1964
this fucking country seems to still be so fucking racist, that i am seriously thinking about leaving....

The sad thing is it's not just this country.

 

[Anna Key]

never ending story

Dogstar short measures shock horror spreads to another thread!

here

 

[hatboy]

FROM R DALEY OF FRIDGE SECURITY:

Hi
I read your e-mail concerning the antics of the management of the Living Room Bar in Coldharbour Lane in Brixton. I have worked at the Fridge nightclub & Bar in Brixton for many years and I also happen to be a Black Male. I am also a Senior Manager and a Director of two related companies that run and operate the Fridge. The story that you relate does not surprise me as I am aware of the blatantly racist policies of the Living Room and their apartheid brand of management. This situation has been long standing and I am happy that others are now seeing what we have condemned openly for the past two years, that racism in certain establishments in Brixton are real and not imagined. A Black member of security that was employed by the Living Room told me that the management of that establishment had told him to 'keep Black men out' and that there were cases whereby Black men who had gained entry were told to leave when Laurence (management) saw them on the premises. I asked the security man why he would work in such an environment and he replied that he 'needs to live'. I honestly fear that we are seeing the beginnings of a potential disastrous conflict that will take place in Brixton sooner or later as I do not believe that Black people and fair whites will tolerate this situation for much longer. I hope that a situation arises whereby this venue is boycotted and effective steps are taken to close this venue. Perhaps the management of that venue should consider moving to Burnley. I am informed that the BNP did quite well in the local elections recently.

R. Daley

 

[TopCat]

More on this another time...

 

[WATERHOUSE]

Originally posted by hatboy
FROM R DALEY OF FRIDGE SECURITY:


Perhaps the management of that venue should consider moving to Burnley. I am informed that the BNP did quite well in the local elections recently.

R. Daley

Spot on!!!
Maybe they could go to Holland? I hear they repond well to self-styled aristocrats.