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a.k.a. floppybollocks
There is a significant problem re attitudes to welfare in both major parties now.
The Labour party has been entirely taken over by aspirational middle class types, who inherently believe that the way out of poverty is to aspire to better things as they do, believing that they only have to remove the obstacles to success for everyone to achieve their potential. And that once this is done, if you are still poor it is your own fault for not being aspirational enough, In this they already think very much the same as Tories. It of course completely ignores the fact that someone has to work on supermarket checkouts, drive busses, sweep the streets, cut the grass, serve in pubs and restaurants, etc. These jobs are mostly not disappearing anytime soon. Anyone who successfully aspires to rise out of them merely creates a vacancy in the same shitty job they have just left. Short of tackling low pay and crap terms and conditions directly, encouraging aspriration merely moves poverty around. There will always be those in crap jobs and it is not their fault that the jobs are crap. And increased competition for the smaller number of better paid opportunities will in time simply allow pay here to fall too.
New Labour and Tory attitudes to welfare are class based. They are the attitudes of the affluent middle classes assuming that the poor are poor because of their own lack of effort, ie that it is their own fault that they are poor. Which in turn makes them assume that a great many welfare claimants are somehow undeserving and that it is right to be tough on them. A degree of snobbish class disdain is a factor here. That Tories have always thought like this is common knowledge. That Labour now does so too is shocking. And they regard the poor as stupid if they don't vote for them anyway. The poor's ever more evident disconnect from Labour is somehow not something Labour takes responsibility for. They seem incapable of understanding why, when their whole attitude is itself a big part of the reason. The Labour party, certainly at the parliamentary level, has become largely disconnected from the working classes it was formed to support. And the working classes are noticing, and responding to this by not unreasonably withholding their support from the party in ever growing numbers.
When I was in the party myself, I noticed these attitudes in spades amongst centrist types. Most of the working class elements amongst the membership were on the left, the very ones no longer welcome. There is a widespread assumption that the working class is mostly racist and thick. And it was commonly said that Labour was now a middle class party with an eagerness to abandon the working classes they derided. In short the typical Labour centrist holds the working classes in contempt, yet believes they are stupid for not voting for them anyway.
Such thinking feeds all too easily into Labour's negative attitudes towards welfare.
Excellent and wise post, dude. States the situation concisely and with far more punch than Steve Rayson´s "The fall of the Red Wall" book, which is rather ponderous and repetitive. Respect!
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