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It's a summary of 5 or six stories that will get broad sheet coverage if you are lucky...meanwhile algorithm will surpress his work. .
Let's talk about China
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Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
What. Does. It. Say.
What do you feel about it?
A post with nothing but a video is not going to make people watch it.
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What I feel about it...well its hard to find news on China what with the wumao actively targeting anyone regularly putting out stuff even marginally off CCP message , even on sites blocked in China...so far play to the bloke, puts a lot of effort in , and as he actually operates out of China -his arse on the line.
If you are interested you are interested if you have other sources put em up or failing that and you really are after having your arse wiped for fuck off and leave China as some far of land you can't be arsed with.
Politburo may have been brought forward over Quin Gang but those financial ain't good and a lot of face/politics and livelihoods at stake . There will be losers
If you are interested you are interested if you have other sources put em up or failing that and you really are after having your arse wiped for fuck off and leave China as some far of land you can't be arsed with.
Politburo may have been brought forward over Quin Gang but those financial ain't good and a lot of face/politics and livelihoods at stake . There will be losers
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China is suddenly dealing with another public health crisis: mpox
While the scale is vastly differently than covid, the government is already repeating some of the same mistakes.
Yossarian
Get thee behind me, Santa
Doubling down on being a police state and cozying up to Russia is bad for tourism, it seems, except tourism from Russia
A lot of the people I know who were engaged with China for a long period of time throughout the late 00s and 10s have essentially broken ties with the country and are no longer interested in returning. The lack of these regular repeat visitors, as well as declining numbers of expats living in China who invite people to visit them, and the cumulative/aggregate effect of their negative reporting to people back home probably dents inbound tourism quite a lot even on top of everything else.
IMO it is even more intolerable for those who speak the language because you'd have to put up with constant propaganda supporting Russia's war in Ukraine etc but you have no right to respond and have to just grin and bear it.
Sharp Decline in the Number of Foreigners in China Demands Serious Attention
Wang Wen, Executive Dean of Chongyang Institute, Renmin University says China must NOT prioritize security and in the process stifle development or international exchanges.
www.pekingnology.com
A translation of a speech by a University Dean which contains a lot of veiled criticism of the policies which have led to a decline of foreign travel to China.
I don't necessarily agree with his claim that China's image would improve with more people visiting - in my experience people who spend more time in China (at least during Xi era) tend to become more critical than those who don't visit - but I agree with him that China's global status is ultimately harmed by the paranoid prioritisation of security which has a deleterious effect on person-to-person exchanges.
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Tourism industry official deplores collapse of inbound tourism
Foreign visitors are crucial to restoring friendships & preventing "decoupling" amid mounting unfavorable views from the West
www.pekingnology.com
A similar speech by president of the Smart Tourism Branch of the China Tourism Association on the collapse of inbound tourism which also contains some useful additional information. The former speech above says that now tourism is mostly from developing countries rather than developed; however this appears to be from classifyng street vendors and migrant labour regularly crossing the border back and forth from Vietnamese or Myanmar border towns as tourism.
skyscraper101
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That is so China.
krtek a houby
Kick me again Jesus
Chinese graffiti doesn't go down well in Brick Lane
www.theguardian.com
Chinese political slogans spark graffiti free-for-all on east London wall
After artists painted 24 bold red characters in Brick Lane, other people began to add their thoughts – until the council stepped in
gosub
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Beijing 2.5ft of rain in 4 days. Though think Hebei is more worrying ...that's rice bowl ..coming at same time as Black Sea grain exports stopped
skyscraper101
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Those poor people. Not that I expect the CCP to curb their coal fired power plant building any time soon
www.theguardian.com
China ramps up coal power despite carbon neutral pledges
Local governments approved more coal power in first three months of 2023 than all of 2021
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Tbf 2021 not a good reference year...other stuff going onThose poor people. Not that I expect the CCP to curb their coal fired power plant building any time soon
China ramps up coal power despite carbon neutral pledges
Local governments approved more coal power in first three months of 2023 than all of 2021
skyscraper101
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Ah yeah. I get confused which year was the one they decided they had beaten covid and started packing out giant swimming pools and cinemas while the rest of the world was in lockdown, and which was the one they decided to weld people in their flats to die of starvation and housefires because 'zero covid'
gosub
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2020 Ain't we doing well
2021 Ain't we good at welding
2022 We Ain't good at counting cases
gosub
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The Real Story of That Chinese EV Graveyard Isn't What You Were Told
China's infamous electric car graveyard is real, but its story was told wrong until a local investigated the site.
www.thedrive.com
Looks like one hell of a fire risk if nothing else
gosub
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China stops reporting youth unemployment as economic pressures mount | Financial Times
Central bank cuts key interest rate to lowest since 2014 as growth slows in retail sales and industrial output
Call that more let it rot than lie flat
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
The red orchestra may be tuning up China’s army filmed apparently preparing for conflict in Taiwan strait
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China is on the verge of economic and social implosion
Xi Jinping’s backward priorities and strategic overreach are undermining Beijing’s legitimacy
www.telegraph.co.uk
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Foxconn is moving a lot of their production to India.
IPhone Manufacturer Foxconn Ready To Cash In On India's Expanding Economy - Forbes India
The Taiwanese company has declared investing over $1.2 billion in India and remains bullish on expanding into EVs and semiconductors, while its iPhone manufacturing capacity may go up to 15 percent in a few years
skyscraper101
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China is on the verge of economic and social implosion
Xi Jinping’s backward priorities and strategic overreach are undermining Beijing’s legitimacy
For a country that seems to insert it's state apparatus and controls on just about everything, they proper fucked it when it came to reining in companies like Evergrande from getting in way over their heads to the tune of $300Bn.
And then when trust in the property market fades and real estate is just about the only thing people in China can invest in then it's no wonder the economy is tanking.
RedRedRose
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Sharp decline in the number of people studying Mandarin. Strong suggestion it could be politically motivated.
Why fewer university students are studying Mandarin
Learning the difficult language does not seem as worthwhile as it once didwww.economist.com
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
archived full text: here
I studied Mandarin around the time of the post-Olympics peak hype and the fact is that the jobs just aren't there for it.
Some of this is down to jobs in the west that need Chinese preferring to hire bilingual native speakers of whom there are plenty; but also for jobs within China there isn't a particular preference for foreigners who can speak Chinese, and in fact sometimes it seems they prefer foreign business partners who don't speak Chinese as it gives the Chinese side an advantage.
Chinese firms that might hire foreigners for localisation etc tend to keep them quite segregated from the rest of the company and there are limited opportunities for progression. Getting money you make out of China is difficult and they don't really want you there long term either so it isn't a great option.
Aside from jobs, Chinese language popular culture (TV and film) is also with some exceptions (typically older movies or movies banned in China) frankly a "improving my language skills" chore rather than something particularly enjoyable and it is getting worse as political control increases over media. There are also determined to police interaction between Chinese and foreigners so you can't even really participate in Chinese social media easily. Many things require a Chinese phone number to join so if you aren't physically in China you are locked out. Learning a language for cultural exchange rather than economics is one thing but they even try to make non-economic uses of the language painful and fraught these days. I honestly regret learning it and feel I could have learned French, German and Spanish in the time it took me and I would get a lot more out of them.
Also I personally couldn't stand living there anymore, which doesn't help either... in the end I just retrained and got a software related job which is better paid and with more opportunities than anything China related and also required a lot less hours of study to get to a level where it was professionally useful...
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RedRedRose
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According to FSI who train diplomats in languages, for an English-native, Mandarin takes approximately four times more hours to master than Spanish, about 2.5 more than German, and twice that of languages like Farsi and Russian.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
This must to some extent hold back some cultural reach. Though places like Korea and Japan manage to have cultural influence in the west and I doubt they are that easy to learn either.
ska invita
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China is on the verge of economic and social implosion
Xi Jinping’s backward priorities and strategic overreach are undermining Beijing’s legitimacy
gosub
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Well they made a concerted effort this week to get their pension funds and banks to prop up their stock market...might have well have just set fire to the money...which is worth less anyway due to their intrest rate cut earlier in the week.
Evergrande (now in Chapter 15 bankruptcy) spread to CountryGarden ...17% of GDP was in construction..
You've got the on going decoupling from US with a tit for tat trade war not only with them but Australia too (used to import of their raw materials ) and now Japan too. The slump is large enough to be impacting on the economy of their largest inward investor. ... Germany.
Tbf they ain't too rosey in the rest of the world either
tim
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I think learning to speak Japanese is less of a challenge. I've had several colleagues over the years who have achieved some degree of proficiency and Japanese pronunciation is not as challenging as the other two - Japanese names are usually easy to master As to Korean, I'm always being told that you can learn to read Korean in a few hours rather than the years that it takes to learn Chinese.
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