Laurence Fox. The twat.

[Pickman's model]

Technically it's a principality

The principality of antioch was simultaneously a country, as is Wales

 

[philosophical]

Wasn’t Wales for a brief period of time once a kingdom?

 

[two sheds]

I think that was before Brexit though.

 

[tim]

The principality of antioch was simultaneously a country, as is Wales

As are Lichtenstein, Monaco, and Andorra.

Luxembourg in a quest to be original is a Duchy.

 

[danny la rouge]

Wasn’t Wales for a brief period of time once a kingdom?

This whole quest for a working definition of “country” is doomed to failure. Not least because people are flinging around apparent synonyms which are not actual synonyms.

Principality is distinguished from kingdom, not country. Country both is and is not a synonym for nation-state.

What is and is not a country differs over time too. Political entities change, their functions change, their administrative make up changes, their power structures change, their modes of production change, their borders change. The concept of nation-state in C19th is not identical to the concept of kingdom from C12th.

I write from the kingdom of Alt Clud. But was brought up in Dal Riata. (And though I have placed my foot in the stone footprint at Dunadd I am king of neither place).

We’re trying to catch mist. We won’t.

 

[Pickman's model]

I love watching you pedants at play

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Luxembourg in a quest to be original is a Duchy.

i thought that was something to do with old jug ears...

 

[Boo Radley75]

Fox is now obsessed with the n word, just like a small child when it see's the reaction it gets for saying a naughty word so keeps repeating it over and over again, in as many contexts as possible......

Oh, he'll still bleat and cry if anyone calls him a racist, though.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Hopefully him & Tomeh get the absolute shit kicked out of them on the 27th.

 

[8ball]

The principality of antioch was simultaneously a country, as is Wales

No, Wales is not a principality.

 

[Pickman's model]

No, Wales is not a principality.

He said on the basis of no evidence

 

[8ball]

He said on the basis of no evidence

I didn’t offer any evidence, just as you didn’t.

 

[Pickman's model]

I didn’t offer any evidence, just as you didn’t.

what didn't i offer evidence for? My point was wales is a country

 

[8ball]

what didn't i offer evidence for? My point was wales is a country

Your point appeared to be (and this may be one of those cases of language evolving too fast for anyone to grasp onto any coherent meaning), that it was simultaneously a country and a principality.

I disagreed with the “principality” bit.

 

[Pickman's model]

Your point appeared to be (and this may be one of those cases of language evolving too fast for anyone to grasp onto any coherent meaning), that it was simultaneously a country and a principality.

I disagreed with the second part.

It makes no odds the form of government, the erstwhile principality of antioch and the United states of America are both examples of countries. As is Wales.

 

[8ball]

It makes no odds the form of government, the erstwhile principality of antioch and the United states of America are both examples of countries. As is Wales.

Fair dos.
What gets my goat is that the “principality” bollocks gets brought up a lot as a reason for why Wales is apparently not a country.

That a place could be both is a reasonable counterpoint, but I think it just lets in further obfuscation if we fail to point out that Wales is not actually a principality in any constitutionally meaningful sense, any more than York is ruled over and run by a sweatless sex pest.

 

[Pickman's model]

Fair dos.
What gets my goat is that the “principality” bollocks gets brought up a lot as a reason for why Wales is apparently not a country.

That a place could be both is a reasonable counterpoint, but I think it just lets in further obfuscation if we fail to point out that Wales is not actually a principality in any constitutionally meaningful sense, any more than York is ruled over and run by a sweatless sex pest.

I eagerly await your evidence of shammer's sexpestiness

 

[danny la rouge]

Fox is now obsessed with the n word, just like a small child when it see's the reaction it gets for saying a naughty word so keeps repeating it over and over again, in as many contexts as possible......

Oh, he'll still bleat and cry if anyone calls him a racist, though.

His “point” is going to be that he’s spelling it like a hip hop artist, and so how can it be racist for him to say it if black people can use it of themselves and each other? Because logic, bro.

Avoiding the obvious answer: because history, you self obsessed gomerill.

 

[8ball]

His “point” is going to be that he’s spelling it like a hip hop artist, and so how can it be racist for him to say it if black people can use it of themselves and each other? Because logic, bro.

Avoiding the obvious answer: because history, you self obsessed gomerill.

I’m not sure that was his “point” at all. I think it looked like straight up sarcasm.

 

[danny la rouge]

I’m not sure that was his “point” at all. I think it looked like straight up sarcasm.

He’s been using it repeatedly over the last few days, not just in one tweet. It’s attention-seeking egomania. He wants to be called racist so he can say “Childish Gambino says it”.

 

[8ball]

He’s been using it sort early over the last few days, not just in one tweet. It’s attention-seeking egomania. He wants to be called racist so he can say “Childish Gambino says it”.

Tbf I’d never heard of “Childish Gambino” until your post, and have not been closely monitoring Laurence Fox.

It still reads like sarcasm to me, but I might have that wrong.

 

[Serge Forward]

Wait? What? What's Childish Gambino done?

 

[danny la rouge]

Wait? What? What's Childish Gambino done?

Nothing. Nothing wrong. I plucked the name out of the air. He’s not even in the news. I just didn’t want to namecheck an East Coast Hip Hop star from the 90s, which I almost certainly otherwise would have.

(Plus I have a low key man crush on him).

 

[8ball]

Nothing. Nothing wrong. I plucked the name out of the air. He’s not even in the news. I just didn’t want to namecheck an East Coast Hip Hop star from the 90s, which I almost certainly otherwise would have.

(Plus I have a low key man crush on him).

Oh, ok - I thought for a second that Childish Gambino was the bloke in that video.

 

[danny la rouge]

Oh, ok - I thought for a second that Childish Gambino was the bloke in that video.

Childish Gambino/Donald Glover.

 

[Serge Forward]

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Childish Gambino/Donald Glover.

"Awaken, my love" was a great album. I haven't heard his other stuff (I must do better). But I admit I also have a man crush.

 

[krtek a houby]

Wait? What? What's Childish Gambino done?

Hot Ones!



And he says he's retiring the Childish Gambino character...

 

[Lotte]

His “point” is going to be that he’s spelling it like a hip hop artist, and so how can it be racist for him to say it if black people can use it of themselves and each other? Because logic, bro.

Avoiding the obvious answer: because history, you self obsessed gomerill.

Lozza would never dare call a black person that word to their face. He'd get his head kicked in and he knows it.

 

[scalyboy]

Is that a static caravan?

We might be close to pinpointing where he is...

Give the loathsome cant his due, he's actually been rather shrewd here - not only has he escaped 'Londonistan' - with its no-go zones, predatory drag queens and women drinking pints.

But in addition, his rented caravan can easily be converted into a tres chic, vibing pop-up restaurant, 'Foxes' - where personal service is paramount and a warm welcome guaranteed, with 'Lozza' doing a threes-up as mein Fuhrer host, maitre de and chef, serving up (ahem) his only signature dish 'Burnt sausage de Fox aux pomme-frites de MacDonalds, avec la Iceland stringy runner beans'.

They'll be queuing up on a Friday and a Saturday night I tells ya - he'll be raking it in

 

[LakieLady]

Give the loathsome cant his due, he's actually been rather shrewd here - not only has he escaped 'Londonistan' - with its no-go zones, predatory drag queens and women drinking pints.

But in addition, his rented caravan can easily be converted into a tres chic, vibing pop-up restaurant, 'Foxes' - where personal service is paramount and a warm welcome guaranteed, with 'Lozza' doing a threes-up as mein Fuhrer host, maitre de and chef, serving up (ahem) his only signature dish 'Burnt sausage de Fox aux pomme-frites de MacDonalds, avec la Iceland stringy runner beans'.

They'll be queuing up on a Friday and a Saturday night I tells ya - he'll be raking it in


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Fox's sausages are pathetic. Barely a chipolata.

Which is fitting, really.