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If he is anti nuclear how on earth can he belong too, and want protection from, an organisation that has them.
Corbyn would want Nato to rid itself of nuclear weapons, would it not be the height of hypocrisy for him to do otherwise.

Lack of diplomacy has a cost. I know he has already found that out from his own people.
Can't you see, at all, any trouble coming?

Corbyn will find out when back in the commons, Mr nice doesn't cut it.
What is he going to say to a reporter, when asked ( as he surely will be ) what is his stance on Nato.

VP Says: Can't you feel the air? There's too much paranoia.
So you can tell us what military problems Britain will face in the next 5 years, go on then clever DICK, tell us all.
What VP said was a line from a song called "Holidays in the Sun" - a comment on the perceived political situation 38 years ago. Your paranoia about problems echoes the rubbish that the press were pumping out back then.
A few facts for you:
Corbyn is a social democrat and the elected leader of the Labour Party. That means that regardless of his personal preferences, he will follow the will of the majority.
The fact that Corbyn is bent on re-democratising the Labour Party means that the will of the re-empowered membership may well neutralise the union and PLP-led decisions on Trident and NATO.
You're an idiot.
 
I am reading and understand but Nato is an umbrella organisation, don't tell me that countries will only use certain weapons to protect members that is rubbish.
You can't guarantee what you contend.
NATO is an administrative organisation. For every type of action that can be undertaken in NATO's name, there is a protocol. NATO has no protocol for the use of ANY radiological weapons by member states.
Still, better to believe the wibblings of the deluded, than to keep in mind the bureaucratic shit-storm NATO gave itself last time it attempted to establish a new protocol - as I recall it took about 10 months, and that was to use conventional air-dropped weapons.
 
You're also not listening to VP. Only the US, France and the UK have nukes out of NATO members, and there is no way any of them would drop a nuke to defend any fellow member. I would hope there is no way any of them would drop a nuke full stop, but the US has done so twice already, so I can't guarantee it.

technically yes - but the US has nukes in various countries with the idea that some of them can be deployed by other NATO members - there are nuclear sharing arrangements with a few countries including Turkey, Germany etc... They remain under US control and guarded by US troops but the idea is that they can be deployed by the host country with US permission/on behalf of the US.
 
NATO is an administrative organisation. For every type of action that can be undertaken in NATO's name, there is a protocol. NATO has no protocol for the use of ANY radiological weapons by member states.

I'm not sure that any member NATO has weapons specifically or primarily designed to disperse radiation or radioactive materials at a target. Unless you meant nuclear rather than radiological.

Edit: unless one of them has neutron bombs.

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Labour First is a thing, a terrible Luke Nukem Akehurst Secretaried thing...

But Labour first said creating this organisation “looks divisive” and said it was concerned that its “warm words” on improving internal party democracy was a disguise to “mobilise factionally within Labour”.

It claimed the “veteran Bennite organisers” of the campaign group would use it to deselect MPs and councillors who “are not judged ‘politically correct’”.

Luke Akehurst, the secretary of Labour First, wrote: “We find it rather strange that the winning candidate in a leadership election would sustain the life of their campaign after winning, rather than seeing their role now as having a responsibility to unite the whole party, including supporters of all four of this summer's candidates.”

He added that Momentum, by saying it would organise in “every town, city and village to create a mass movement for real progressive change,” was the role of the Labour party and “not a parallel structure”.

The email ended with a plea to resist the Corbynite campaign group in order to protect a purge of moderates in the Labour party.

Mr Akehurst added: “Labour First is trying to build the broadest possible coalition of mainstream and moderate Labour activists to resist a Hard Left takeover of our party's internal democratic structures, and protect and support hardworking moderate councillors, MPs and CLP officers. We can't let "Momentum" have all the momentum.”

The Labour party's left and right are at war already

The fucking irony detector's going to take YEARS to fix :D
 
yeah right, organise in every town. Labours been absent for fucking years in its granted for heartlands. When they com knocking for my vote it was two old boys and I'm not being ageist but pension age. As if the 'moderates' will be going out doorknocking and shit. Fucking chancers. They can all burn.
 
Lucky you, in Toxteth here I've been waiting 14 years to see a Labour poverty pimp asking for votes round the doors, but as yet still waiting to see a Labour Red Tory...
 
Anything known about how many possible Tory rebels? :confused:

Or Labour ones maybe? :mad:

That's quite a turnup that story, anyway :hmm:
I had this feeling that McDonnell was never that happy with the idea of voting for the Government on this.
 
The fiscal charter is a bonkers idea. It essentially makes the triggering of recessions a legal requirement for government.
Aye, it has fuck all basis in economics and I think even those with only a cursory understanding of economics can see it. What it shows us is how little Osborne understands of economics. It's all posturing and game-playing with him. Cunt.
 
"Tonight's ICM Guardian poll with LAB just 4% behind equals the best position for party in any poll since GE2015. Good for Corbyn."

From Mike Smithson, something must be working.
 
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