Labour leadership

[Long Ball Game]

McDonnell seems still in shock that he's where he is. Time will solve that, he will "improve" the Tories can't (won't?) change.

 

[nino_savatte]

 

[Dandred]

Yep, another circus sideshow.

Where is the real show? I'd like to watch.

 

[Orang Utan]

Where is the real show? I'd like to watch.

I don't think we're allowed to see it.

 

[Dandred]

I don't think we're allowed to see it.

Not even on TV? Or the freedom of information act?

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Where is the real show? I'd like to watch.

There is no real show; just lots of different places where decisions are made and so many many more where those decisions get put into practice.

There isn't a conspiracy...but there is a logic.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Orang Utan]

Not even on TV? Or the freedom of information act?

You could always watch the actual bills being passed on the parliamentary channel if you really want.

 

[Dandred]

You could always watch the actual bills being passed on the parliamentary channel if you really want.

I've watched enough to know the people who didn't vote aren't represented.

I hope the people who didn't vote next time elect some like Corbyn.

Better than just drawing a cock.

 

[Orang Utan]

I've watched enough to know the people who didn't vote aren't represented.

I hope the people who didn't vote next time elect some like Corbyn.

Better than just drawing a cock.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, but I don't think you are either.

 

[J Ed]

Good for the working class? - Weekly Worker

Article by Michael Roberts about Corbynomics

 

[treelover]

Fantastic. Please do this broadcast again. You inspire me and all in my family. My 87 year old mum is joining the Labour Party for the first time in her life because of you. Honesty, integrity and a true passion for human rights and equality. Thank you.

From FB, something is definitely going on.

 

[treelover]

I must admit I had not been aware of Jeremy until recently, unfortunately I was sucked into the Tory scare tactics, as a result they got my vote this time. However if you truly are as you appear then you will get my vote for PM. You certainly are a breath of fresh air in politics, some one who cares about the working class. I find it appalling that our current PM who is paid by the public has off shore accounts to hide his families loot. Avoiding paying their fear amount in tax, whilst the rest of us can only dream to have a life style as they rich do. One rule for us and another for the rich! Keep this up Jeremy and more supporters will come your way.

and this one, how did people like him, pretty sussed, vote Tory?

 

[JHE]

Comments like that make me think of comments on TripAdvisor. They could be genuine... or not.

 

[kebabking]

and this one, how did people like him, pretty sussed, vote Tory?

i think the opposite to 'pretty sussed' is the the truth.

never heard of JC before - what, has this person being living under a blanket, in a cave, on the moon?

didn't know that Cameron was rich, and like any other rich person with the ability to use shoelaces, sticking their money where its tax liability was minimised? really?

i don't believe this person - should they exist - voted tory. nothing in what they (apparently...) written suggests them having a single value in line with the tories, so why would they be 'scared' by what the tories were running? of course, its possible someone so ill-informed, so stupid and so failing to understand the basic and public bits of politics does exist - in which i'm sure they'll be a huge benefit to Corbyns labour party...

 

[killer b]

I see we're on the breathlessly excited bit of the cycle.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

of course, its possible someone so ill-informed, so stupid and so failing to understand the basic and public bits of politics does exist

I think many people on the left do overlook just how many people out there are that ill-informed

The tories and their friends who own the press are aware and use it to their advantage. hence the "you can't vote for him, he looks a dork eating a bacon sandwich, vote labour and there will be a plague of locusts over the land" or whatever it was that the 2015 campaign was...

 

[DotCommunist]

have to say i'm a bit disappointed that Corbyn has claimed that he has transformed Prime Minister's Question Time into People's Question Time. I watched it for the first time in forever today and it's a fucking circus. The arcane parliamentary protocol encourages this by making them talk to someone else when they should be talking to each other and it just ends up sounding like a playground spat

I recon it was so that no MP from either side of the house was directly adressing the other and therefor not in danger of issuing a direct insult. Because, honour must be satisfied etc and you'd have duelling MP's all over the shop. I say we bring that archaism of duelling between MPs back. Eric Joyce vs Michael Gove would be a good one

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

I recon it was so that niether MP from eithe side of the house was directly adressing the other and therefor not in danger of issuing a direct insult. Because, honour must be satisfied etc and ou'd have duelling MP's all over the shop. I say we bring that archaism of duelling between MPs back. Eric Joyce vs Michael Gove would be a good one

Pickles vs Rees-Mogg would be up there too.

 

[DotCommunist]

Pickles vs Rees-Mogg would be up there too.

think of the potential betting opportunities. Television rights. It'd be bigger than UFC

 

[J Ed]

Momentum activist network announces mass voter registration campaign

Seems like an attempt to emulate the Scottish Radical Independence Campaign. Brilliant.

 

[J Ed]

Looks like some Tories may rebel on tax credits, it could be a significant victory for Labour

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

The real reason Britain's permanent political class is freaking out over Jeremy Corbyn - The Canary

 

[ViolentPanda]

Pickles vs Rees-Mogg would be up there too.

You could bill it as "no-neck versus pencil neck".

 

[killer b]

The real reason Britain's permanent political class is freaking out over Jeremy Corbyn - The Canary

I stopped reading at the point where it said a carefully worded attack by Cameron and the tories was 'hysterical'. Utterly clueless.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

I stopped reading at the point where it said a carefully worded attack by Cameron and the tories was 'hysterical'. Utterly clueless.

It is a matter of hysteria to have concocted (lied) that Corbyn thought OBLs actual death was a tragedy. Are you sure you've not just reacted to a more common, but no less valid, nuance of the word? Tories (and others) pretty commonly carefully create hysteria (the SNP scare that helped them get into power is another one)

 

[killer b]

yes, sure - I misunderstood. A near-hysterical freak out she wrote. I'm definitely missing some nuance.

 

[killer b]

fucking pompous tool. as if you're in any position to condescend to anyone.

 

[killer b]

the labour party is a threat to our security mantra and Cameron's made up stuff about Corbyn isn't hysterical - it's part of a carefully calibrated, clear headed plan to destroy him. It isn't because they're scared of him - it's because they think it'll work, and consign the labour party to another generation of opposition.

 

[killer b]

I think they could be wrong, but this kind of rose-tinted bullshit is no way to make them wrong. It's not as if history isn't littered with examples of fearmongering propaganda actually working.

 

[teqniq]