Labour leadership
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YouSir
Retired from Urban
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Do you believe that Corbyn will be elected as Prime Minister of the UK at the next election and, if so, why?
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Fuck off you shitcunt. No-one's making glib statements like that apart from you. You're boring now.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I don't give a flying fuck about the labour parties continued existence. Make or break, I was poor before the crash and still am. I know your echo chamber is well fed people with right wing attitudes but theres a lot of other people who don't live in london and practise law at some posh firm. Grow up.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Diamond: Corbyn is totally unelectable, look at all these policies that people hate!
Urban75: [sourced citation of polling contradicting this view]
Diamond: You lot are deluded with your sources and facts and argumentation!
Lucy Fur
Well-Known Member
And you are missing the point, as a left wing supporter, it is more important to me to have the Labour party back representing a left wing agenda, than it is for them to get into power. Once that is achieved, then they can concentrate on on persuading the voting public that there is a viable left wing alternative.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
and this isn't uncritical either. You still get people reminiscing about their dire BR sarnie hell and the delays etc etc. Yet for some strange reason they hate having to take a mortgage out to cover a train ticket or else engage withan increasingly byzantine pricing structure through the internet just to save a fiver. Takes the fucking piss. #alwaysjumpthefuckers
J Ed
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The main argument against it seems to be that 'BR was in the past'
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Notice that Diamond got shut down two days ago with his shit questions, so he just waited a bit and started with all the same crap again.
Diamond Bearing in mind neo-liberal policies have failed for Labour at the last two elections and you don't like more left-wing ones, what do you suggest Labour's platform should be?
Diamond Bearing in mind neo-liberal policies have failed for Labour at the last two elections and you don't like more left-wing ones, what do you suggest Labour's platform should be?
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
I spent four and a half hours on a fucking National Express yesterday because Cameron hastily gave the state-run East Coast rail franchise to Branson just before the election and they've massively cut the number of discounted fares available (whilst claiming without shame that they haven't put prices up because £13 tickets still exist, if you're lucky enough to find one). I'm quite a few quid out of pocket for the last few months and have twice had to suffer megalolbus or national express for double the journey time and no escape from shitty ringtones. Rail privatisation can fuck right off. I'm with Corbyn on this one.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
So Cooper "... has admitted that there have been behind-the-scenes manoeuvrings to persuade candidates to bow out of the race to prevent veteran leftwing MP Jeremy Corbyn from winning.
but La Kendall chooses to say otherwise..
Not very up-beat, is she?
but La Kendall chooses to say otherwise..
Not very up-beat, is she?
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
5 years ago , even with all my cynicism , I never envisaged food banks . Had never even heard of them . And I grew up in the thatcher era in the most chronically disadvantaged and disfunctional armpit of the " uk" . I don't think it's all that fantastical that people might be sick to the back teeth of that shit . And zero hour contracts . So who knows .
When there was an even slightly more to the left option available in Scotland ,that was a clear alternative to the toxic new labour brand ,it proved extremely popular and something absolutely unprecedented happened . Again I never imagined the scale of new labours obliteration. Total .
After 5 more years of Cameron , food banks,austerity , lack of services, anti worker policies and an obscenely increasing wealth gap , accompanied by braying toffs cheering it all on, people may well be ready to vote for something completely different .
I can imagine what effect of those policies will have on people . I can imagine new labour clones not inspiring anyone to change a thing . And therefore I can imagine corbyn being seen by many as a viable political alternative to a nightmarish existence . Until recently I didn't imagine him as having a hope in hell of being a serious contender for the leadership of labour ...but there you go . He streaked ahead without barely raising a sweat . And so I can imagine him doing quite well now .
YouSir
Retired from Urban
So you don't actually have anything of worth to say then? I don't know if he will but I see plausible reason for hope and think it's a worthwhile thing to try to bring about. Now, you're the one making all the assertions, why not back them up or is being pointless your only act?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
in real terms we as a society pay more in subsidies to the franchise owners than was ever given to BR to keep it solvent. And in the final indignity one of the firms running our rails is a vehicle for the german state owned rail so those profits have gone every time into maintaining the german rail system. Its like some funhouse mirror view of the world to see this as in any way logical or neccesary.
gimesumtruf
pedant fodder
A.Burnham says "I want the people who are drawn to his campaign particularly young people " Drawn in by Jeremy by the way, I want to steal capture that
energy.
I say get your own bleeding energised young! Burnham, ya punk.
energy.
I say get your own bleeding energised young! Burnham, ya punk.
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Grow up and destroy the party that you favour by supporting a leader that will never, ever gain the benefit of election?
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Your contributions are less than worthless
You grow up and destroy the party that you favour by supporting a leader that will never, ever gain the benefit of election.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
have you confused me saying 'I don't give a fuck about the labour party' with support for it? cos thats a pretty big misreading for such a learned man.
J Ed
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His party is prolly the Tories
gimesumtruf
pedant fodder
You will probably get your way Diamond with leader MR Andy A.T. Nout.
ifin ya do, goodbye Labpoor partly.
ifin ya do, goodbye Labpoor partly.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
stop saying stuff that comes true. Next you'll be all like 'the sky is made of goats cheese' and then it will be.
OK - if you don't support the party, then why do you care about the Labour leadership election, assuming that you do?
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
I'll focus on now rather than five years time if it's all the same with you? Labour are meant to be the opposition, they haven't been that since the 2010 election. They might actually be one if Corbyn is elected in September. Then he'll have five years... Half a decade.. to set out his policies. I don't really care about the labour party but having someone with Corbyn's views consistently in the mainstream media is a step in the right direction. Seeing pretty much the entire establishment, including Labour, soil themselves on a daily basis just at the prospect of a Corbyn win is a positive step also.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
and I for one don't want goats milk raining on me, or the sweated liquid from the cheese. I won't have it.
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Can I have a full answer to the post where I asked you about Labour policy please? You can't just ask tonnes of 8 word questions and think you're contributing.
A positive step to what?
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