Labour leadership

[DotCommunist]

I haven't seen any personal venom spat out from Corbyn.

I don't think he'll win. Too many people too scared to even try having a left-wing Labour Party. Hope I'm wrong.

Somebody asked me earlier what proofs of ID the Labour Party want from me; it's basically utility bills plus a passport. But eight weeks to process them means no vote for me or anyone else in Tower Hamlets joining up recently. I joined up a month ago too.

much as I laugh at shennanigans because it amuses me to see the process derailed sometimes, that must right hack you off that you can't vote because rahman and co were cowboying the electoral process

 

[Pickman's model]

why not? What are your opinions on signing up to vote for Corbyn?

why not? because i have no interest in your opinion on this subject.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

why not? because i have no interest in your opinion on this subject.

I'm interested in yours though. What are they#?

 

[frogwoman]

Tbh i think, 'good luck and everything, but...'

 

[brogdale]

well I signed up a month ago, so expecting my ballot over the next few days.

Oh, right. Who yer voting for, then?

 

[frogwoman]

If labour are going to deliberately make it that difficult for new supporters to vote to the extent of it taking eight weeks to register why the hell would you want to get involved with a party which treats the public and the democratic process with such contempt?

 

[Jon-of-arc]

Oh, right. Who yer voting for, then?

Corbyn

 

[spitfire]

If labour are going to deliberately make it that difficult for new supporters to vote to the extent of it taking eight weeks to register why the hell would you want to get involved with a party which treats the public and the democratic process with such contempt?

It cost me £3
I was drunk
I didn't know they were going to do that as my crystal ball was broken.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm interested in yours though. What are they#?

i think there is no point in signing up to vote for corbyn

 

[killer b]

If labour are going to deliberately make it that difficult for new supporters to vote to the extent of it taking eight weeks to register why the hell would you want to get involved with a party which treats the public and the democratic process with such contempt?

Are they making it difficult? Verifying the new sign-ups and booting out obvious piss-takers and supporters of other parties seems ok to me. If they're saying it'll take 8 weeks to verify anyone from Tower Hamlets then they need to sort that out, but it's not unreasonable to take special care with sign ups from there, considering (irritating though it may be for Sam)

 

[spitfire]

And me, I'm TH as well.

 

[belboid]

I read that and it's interesting speculation about how things might go, but at the moment CLPs don't have the ability to deselect, however reenergised they might be - it will require a change in party rules, as will the other aspect of democratic policy making by members.

I don't know (maybe somebody else will be able to clarify) exactly who within the party has the power to change those rules - is it the leader alone, is it the PLP or is it the members by some means or other?

if Cameron pushes the boundary changes through, almost every seat will be 'new' - hence 'deselection' wont come into it, because no MP will be an MP for the new constituency

 

[SpookyFrank]

Genuine question to Corbyn supporters -

Working on the most likely basis that he will never achieve office, why support him?

Show your working please.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

why not? because i have no interest in your opinion on this subject.

Also, I wasnt only asking for your opinion, more the general consensus. What has been said on this thread about it? It's too long to go back through everything. What have other people said?

 

[DotCommunist]

Tbh i think, 'good luck and everything, but...'

thats where I'm at. God speed you Corbyn, but you aren't FC

 

[DotCommunist]

Also, I wasnt only asking for your opinion, more the general consensus. What has been said on this thread about it? It's too long to go back through everything. What have other people said?

good luck but the right of your own party will eat you mainly. Although I think we should listen to rutabowa as his delphic skills have proven prescience is no myth

 

[Jon-of-arc]

The other thing, they took £10 out of my account. I signed up as a member not a supporter cos I didn't read the options right. I have emailed them repeatedly asking for my money back and have been ignored. They are well shit.

 

[Pickman's model]

Also, I wasnt only asking for your opinion, more the general consensus. What has been said on this thread about it? It's too long to go back through everything. What have other people said?

you want to know what other people have said? http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/labour-leadership.334737/

 

[Diamond]

Show your working please.

Good question!

I am admittedly entering into the world of soothsaying here but I would wager that Corbyn would certainly not command a majority in England and Wales and would struggle further still in Scotland and Norn Iron.

Happy to be persuaded otherwise.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

you want to know what other people have said? http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/labour-leadership.334737/

I was, possibly cheekily, hoping someone could précis the general points that have been made in favour and not in favour of signing up to vote.

 

[danny la rouge]

thats where I'm at. God speed you Corbyn, but you aren't FC

*Nobody* could replace Frank Carson.

 

[Belushi]

*Nobody* could replace Frank Carson.

It's the way he told them

 

[Pickman's model]

I was, possibly cheekily, hoping someone could précis the general points that have been made in favour and not in favour of signing up to vote.

the deadline has passed. there are now no arguments in favour of signing up to vote.

 

[Pickman's model]

*Nobody* could replace Frank Carson.

or edward carson

 

[brogdale]

*Nobody* could replace Frank Carson.

Did he miss the "K"?

 

[YouSir]

the deadline has passed. there are now no arguments in favour of signing up to vote.

Still time to sign up to endorse Tessa Jowell for Mayor though, right?

 

[Pickman's model]

Still time to sign up to endorse Tessa Jowell for Mayor though, right?

there's no one in that queue.

 

[scifisam]

If labour are going to deliberately make it that difficult for new supporters to vote to the extent of it taking eight weeks to register why the hell would you want to get involved with a party which treats the public and the democratic process with such contempt?

It's not actually the LP's fault; they were doing the same thing months ago and they are quite busy right now. It's because of voter fraud in my borough, doesn't apply to other areas. It's still annoying to be denied a vote because someone else committed fraud.

 

[danny la rouge]

Did he miss the "K"?

It was special.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm interested in yours though. What are they#?

Also, I wasnt only asking for your opinion,

you don't know what you want.