Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
'Ordinary Londoners' not being left wingers or trade unionists of course.
Labour leadership
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'Ordinary Londoners' not being left wingers or trade unionists of course.
J Ed
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Yeah he's a millionaire upper-middle-class Oxbridge graduate. More than a bit of calculated self-interest at play here.
Also he writes/wrote for the Torygraph
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
That's funny, I remember him mewling not long ago about how everyone who didn't vote in elections was a tacit Stalinist. Apparently this is also true of anyone who votes in ways he disapproves of following his two whole years as a (hugely active, I'm sure) Labour Party member.
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J Ed
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Usually true of the 'if you don't vote in X election I have decided is important then you are spitting on the grave of a group of people I only have the vaguest of understandings of' types
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yes, I had a little interaction with him yesterday evening on twatter; I wasn't impressed.
J Ed
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So back to the real world... are there any visible signs of the Corbyn campaign on the ground where you all are?
I'm not in Sheffield but a friend who is has told me that there has been phone banking and a stall in the city centre in the past couple of weeks. Sounds like it's the 'usual suspects' who are campaigning for him and some very, very recent converts from the usually terrible Sheffield Green Party
I'm not in Sheffield but a friend who is has told me that there has been phone banking and a stall in the city centre in the past couple of weeks. Sounds like it's the 'usual suspects' who are campaigning for him and some very, very recent converts from the usually terrible Sheffield Green Party
Steel Icarus
maybe I'm a maze
Robert Webb's in the same bracket as Bragg, Linehan, Honest, etc
J Ed
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Apparently he deleted this one....
Why delete that one in particular I wonder, it's not like it's any worse than the rest
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
"He is a cunt".
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
can you give me the lottery numbers for tonight?if you have such a great crystal ball .
tvm
Yeah, there's a phone bank on Wednesdays in a cafe in town run by local labour left / TU types. I didn't go so I can't say who was manning the phones.
J Ed
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Also denied that Blair & Straw were war criminals...on the grounds that they had not yet been convicted!
J Ed
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He seems to have a real hard on for the old imperialism thing, then again the Blairite press has really been punching that angle for the past 48 hours as a talking point
I love the use of language, it is so weird, the repeated description of Corbyn as 'anti-internationalist' because he is against NATO. It's very Spiked Online I think.
J Ed
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He is critical of NATO, has talked about withdrawal in the past
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
I was going to post something along the lines of 'look at these people who are also definitely "not war criminals" on that basis,' and apparently Ratko Mladic and Radovan Karadzic are still 'on trial' and have been for years. Somehow I don't think they'll be getting round to Blair any time soon.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Sure. So the first thing to say is that I don't have any loyalty to any party at all. I've voted green and campaigned for them, I've voted tusc and attended socialist party meetings, I'm in the IWW, and have been involved in non-party affiliated grass roots anarchist campaigns over the years. A political party isn't a football club - you don't pick one and then stick with it for the rest of your life (well, some people do, but I think that's a bit weird...). My left wing beliefs are wishy-washy and undefined, but my political efforts are essentially to push the country leftward, but I'm not politically knowledgeable enough to have a specific position I want to achieve. I just try to do my bit to push the country leftward.
So Corbyn is a Labour MP for 30+ years. He's supported a party that is not in any sense socialist. I'm not under any illusions that, if he is successful in his leadership challenge, that he will bring in a new era of a hard left old labour policies. He won't get a chance, because he will be stabbed in the back and be back on the back benches within a year. But the unprecedented swell of support for an actual leftist labour leadership candidate has given me some hope - hope that many of the grassroots members - the ones who have stuck with Labour like a football supporter sticks with their club, ie through thick and thin - are actually what I would consider "proper labour", they're not all blairite drones who are happy with the centrist policies of New Labour, many of them would like to be part of a party with principles again. I think it's a chance for the Labour activists to see how the public reacts to a party with principles beyond "if you don't like the Tories, then we're you're only hope".
I'm not articulating myself very clearly here, but I'm just thinking that there's an outside chance that if Corbyn wins he might surprise the Labour party machine by capturing the pubic imagination with actual principles.
I'm not setting my expectations too high, I just think it would be interesting to see how the public react to a labour leader that's actually Labour.
That's so badly written - I've not explained myself well at all. I might try again tomorrow.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
don't put yourself to the trouble.
why not? What are your opinions on signing up to vote for Corbyn?
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
I haven't seen any personal venom spat out from Corbyn.
I don't think he'll win. Too many people too scared to even try having a left-wing Labour Party. Hope I'm wrong.
Somebody asked me earlier what proofs of ID the Labour Party want from me; it's basically utility bills plus a passport. But eight weeks to process them means no vote for me or anyone else in Tower Hamlets joining up recently. I joined up a month ago too.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Deadline passed. End of.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Not corbyn himself. Some of his supporters on social media.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
What's this? They want proof of ID etc.? I missed this bit. Could you expand/link for me please?
well I signed up a month ago, so expecting my ballot over the next few days.
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