Labour leadership

[Pickman's model]

Wow - you are a tenacious little terrier, aren't you?

Yapping away across the boards, in dismal fashion...

newsflash: you won't find any ENGLISH parties standing in SCOTLAND

 

[J Ed]

Wow this is real

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...p-in-anticipation-of-corbyn-win-a2633476.html

A moderate Labour pressure group dubbed “the Resistance” is being formed by two top shadow cabinet members as Jeremy Corbyn pulls ahead in the leadership race, the Evening Standard can reveal.

Chuka Umunna and Tristram Hunt have written privately to Labour MPs calling on them to meet four days before the leadership result is announced. It is being seen by MPs as a rival to Mr Corbyn’s Left-wing platform and the start of guerrilla warfare for Labour’s soul.

Mr Corbyn today issued plans to give more say over policy to party members, who are typically more Left-leaning than its MPs.

The two frontbenchers stressed the need to “look beyond recent Labour policy prescriptions”, saying Labour had lost its political and intellectual edge. “The leadership contest has been tortuous, but has exposed the fact that we have failed to do sufficient political and intellectual mobilisation in this regard,” wrote Mr Umunna, who is the shadow business secretary, and Mr Hunt, the shadow education secretary.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

In a New Statesman piece which I shant dignify with a link, Ivan Lewis (Lab, Bury South, Shadow Northern Ireland) says he can not "in all conscience" vote for Corbyn.

However, his conscience did guide him to vote for war crimes, and against investigating them, For ID cards and the database state. And the same hallowed conscience had him abstain on welfare "reform", which will further impoverish disabled people.

It is a dark conscience indeed, the conscience of an utter prick.

 

[Diamond]

Show your working please.

Ok - I'm admit that I'm going on gut instinct here but my previous flatmate, during the referendum, is from Edinburgh and she had a whole bunch of Glaswegian friends, where she went to university, that she spent a lot of time with when she was living with me. They were top, top people but almost en masse they quit their jobs in London, quit the leases on their flats, sometimes to their disadvantage, and returned North of the border prior to the vote in the expectation that this was a new dawn.

Now - I have no idea how they are doing now and my previous flatmate has now moved in with her sister in Hackney and it's a bit of a sensitive topic as she was a firm "no", but there was something much, much deeper than day-to-day politics going on there.

Scotland will become independent - it is just a matter of time.

I spent four years up in Scotland for university and it is genuinely an independent country, and that's a good thing.

It is, of course, a bad thing for Labour and leftwing politics in England but we just have to live with that...

 

[DotCommunist]

moderate lol

repeat the fails to condemn anti-semites (which we all know means he is a great big hater of jewish people). The fucking substandard

 

[Belushi]

Wow this is real

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...p-in-anticipation-of-corbyn-win-a2633476.html

The twats

 

[DotCommunist]

Ivan Lewis

funnily enough he's the one quoted in the standard article calling corbyn an anti-semite out of the side of his mouth.

 

[YouSir]

Wow this is real

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...p-in-anticipation-of-corbyn-win-a2633476.html

May be catnip to all those passing voters who might have lost interest after the election was done. Now they have a proper evil enemy to go to constituency meetings and purge. Everyone loves a bit of drama.

 

[J Ed]

I can't believe that they are calling their thing 'the resistance', it's like something teenagers would come up with

 

[brogdale]

 

[DotCommunist]

 

[J Ed]

Why don't they themselves 'the goodies'

 

[YouSir]

Rebel Alliance?

 

[DotCommunist]

cry freedom from your massive posh houses hunt n chukka. am dram wankers

 

[YouSir]

In years to come a horseman will ride into Parliament, sweat on his brow and a tremouring voice. Tristram Hunt has been sighted off the coast of Dover with an army of Guardian readers rallied from their holidays in Provence. Back to restore, by divine right and natural order, the Ancien Regime. May just start buffing my roundhead helmet in preparation...

 

[J Ed]

cry freedom from your massive posh houses hunt n chukka. am dram wankers

Resistance against 'the trash'

 

[agricola]

Wow this is real

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...p-in-anticipation-of-corbyn-win-a2633476.html

Good news for the icepick industry, at any rate.

 

[19sixtysix]

Chuka won't do nothing. He pissed his pants on the first day of the leadership election at the thought the press might be trawling through his bins. Tristram Hunt I actually thought he was a paid up member of the Tory party but I'm sure his constituency party will shortly welcome a chance to deselect him.

 

[Belushi]

I bet the Scots are really regretting abandoning Labour right now

 

[kabbes]

Wow, Robert Webb is a bit of a cunt

Bit harsh. I think he's utterly wrong but his heart comes from the right place.

 

[emanymton]

He is the wisest person on Urban, for he knows one thing, and that is that he knows nothing.

I thought it was the rest of us that knows he knows nothing?

 

[campanula]

I do feel quite sick that, apart from the parliamentarian abstainers on urban, for most people, the democratic process of voting in an election has not yet been superceded - and will, at the end of this sorry shambles, be even more utterly discredited. Yes, I get it that Westminster has nothing to offer people who wish to protest against social injustice other than a discredited and tiny mandate for a minority but until there are better forms of representation, it is, at present, what we have...and the naked disgusting self-interest of the LP - well politicos in general...simply removes even this smidgeon of pretend power from an infuriated electorate. True, whatever the outcome, the LP will cease to exist...or at least any effective opposition - much like the US where politics are fought on an endless platform of personalities, faux-morality (a rush to theocracy as a weapon of repression) and a massive warchest of bought puppets who are just shiny toothed fronts for billionaire oligarchs. -

 

[danny la rouge]

I thought it was the rest of us that knows he knows nothing?

 

[Pickman's model]

Ok - I'm admit that I'm going on gut instinct here but my previous flatmate, during the referendum, is from Edinburgh and she had a whole bunch of Glaswegian friends, where she went to university, that she spent a lot of time with when she was living with me. They were top, top people but almost en masse they quit their jobs in London, quit the leases on their flats, sometimes to their disadvantage, and returned North of the border prior to the vote in the expectation that this was a new dawn.

Now - I have no idea how they are doing now and my previous flatmate has now moved in with her sister in Hackney and it's a bit of a sensitive topic as she was a firm "no", but there was something much, much deeper than day-to-day politics going on there.

Scotland will become independent - it is just a matter of time.

I spent four years up in Scotland for university and it is genuinely an independent country, and that's a good thing.

It is, of course, a bad thing for Labour and leftwing politics in England but we just have to live with that...

and nary a word about these mysterious english parties which stamd in scotland. i call bullshit.

 

[DotCommunist]

I bet the Scots are really regretting abandoning Labour right now

Its like watching a carcrash in slo-mo. They've learned nothing from scotland, nothing from the GE defeat overall. Despite being straight out the gates with 'we realise we failed to blah blah'.

 

[DotCommunist]

parliamentarian abstainers

spoilers too. I do enjoy drawing a big cock or writing STALIN on the ballot paper. And the local polling station is right next to the shop in a school over the road, so its no hardship, thats how I ended up being one of the mighty 13% who turned out to vote in the PCC elections

 

[J Ed]

spoilers too. I do enjoy drawing a big cock or writing STALIN on the ballot paper. And the local polling station is right next to the shop in a school over the road, so its no hardship, thats how I ended up being on of the mighty 13% who turned out to vote in the PCC elections

I quite enjoy throwing the "so did you vote in the PCC elections then?" in the faces of the people who whine about non-voters around GE day

 

[teqniq]

Lol

Gordon Brown to speak on Labour leadership as MPs panic over Corbyn

Labour MPs – among whom support for Corbyn is low – pushing for an intervention from Brown, who they believe has more credibility than Tony Blair...

 

[J Ed]

Lol

Gordon Brown to speak on Labour leadership as MPs panic over Corbyn

I think with the membership he probably does have more credibility

 

[DotCommunist]

Lol

Gordon Brown to speak on Labour leadership as MPs panic over Corbyn

I don't know how much influence his last min intervention on scots indyreff had. I do know he promised a raft of new powers that never happened. I do know people in england view him as the also-ran who was in charge when the balloon went up financially worldwide