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Labour & Anti-Semitism.

I’m pretty bored with people bringing up obscure occasions on which there probably wasn’t any antisemitism and using that to imply that it therefore follows it was all exaggerated, but never actually building up the courage to make that actual assertion. Because, you know, you’re just asking questions.

So, let’s have some brave answers and fewer cowardly questions.
 
I think we are all pretty much agreed that this Miriam person probably behaved like a dick on that day in January.
The constant banging on about it (Stephen Solley QC!) serves what purpose - unless you think it’s representative of something much broader really commonplace and important. Like jews lying and over reacting in order to.. hurt nice old men?

- I'd never heard of Solley before this thread, let alone 'banged on' about him - above is the first time I've ever mentioned his name
-Didn't see any ' agreement' that Mirwitch was a ' dickhead ' either ( though may have zoned out when thread clicked back into to circular clustrf*ck mode ).
 
- I'd never heard of Solley before this thread, let alone 'banged on' about him - above is the first time I've ever mentioned his name
-Didn't see any ' agreement' that Mirwitch was a ' dickhead ' either ( though may have zoned out when thread clicked back into to circular clustrf*ck mode ).
The constant banging on is from rummo , but you did take up the story. Do you think that’s a good look?
 
I'm not sure all that information would have been known by Mirwitch when she received the reply tbf. Why would it?

" Twenty-three minutes later, Mirwitch wrote to Solley’s former chambers, accusing him of antisemitism."

 
Cards on table here, cantsin , if you are still in denial mode, then your judgement is seriously in question.
" Twenty-three minutes later, Mirwitch wrote to Solley’s former chambers, accusing him of antisemitism."

Now you’re banging on.

Why?
 
or she googled him.
Doesn't really matter who he is, though. The email she quotes is not remotely antisemitic. Attacks on a person or group's politics are wrongly portrayed as attacks on their ethnicity. That's the core of the way antiantisemitism is weaponised to prevent criticism of Israeli treatment of Palestinians.
 
ffs.... just looked up the Stephen Solley / Mirwitch stuff...... then clicked through to the twitter thread.

...for her to actually post this up



and forget to mention that this was received from an elderly , lifelong jewish socialist and human rights QC, who she then starts seriously harassing via his workplace, the Labour Party etc, whilst lapping up the ' sending solidarity ' pile on.

Hope you're enjoying yourselves kicking this Rummo about on here though - this stuff is farcical.


I'm kicking rummo about mainly because it's worth preserving the fact that there's space between Gnasher Jew and Chris Williamson. You know - a single example doesn't tell you the whole picture. And the fact that rummo keeps on going back to this single example again and again shows that he thinks it's of broad significance.

For what it's worth, looking at the other side of things, I think there's a bit of intra-community reckoning going on with left wing Jews (like Solley) making up an alarming proportion of the witches to be hunted. That some of these left wing Jews also have terrible politics is a little beside the point IMO. But then I'm inclined to listen to what those Jews like Frogwoman, bimble and Madeinbedlam who are likely to be subject to vitriol from both the dirtbag left and community stans are saying. They're much more worried about left antisemitism than they are about the BOD.
 
" Twenty-three minutes later, Mirwitch wrote to Solley’s former chambers, accusing him of antisemitism."

Fairly sure I could find someone's place of employment on google in 23 minutes. I'm not sure I'd be able to find out their ethnicity, age or the type of work they carried out at that place of employment.
 
I’m pretty bored with people bringing up obscure occasions on which there probably wasn’t any antisemitism and using that to imply that it therefore follows it was all exaggerated, but never actually building up the courage to make that actual assertion. Because, you know, you’re just asking questions.

So, let’s have some brave answers and fewer cowardly questions.


Is anyone claiming that Mirwich genuinely thought Solley was an anti Semite when she made the complaints against him?
or she googled him.


She googled him and found out what exactly?
 
I'm kicking rummo about mainly because it's worth preserving the fact that there's space between Gnasher Jew and Chris Williamson.
Yes this. And the fact that so many people seem to have been unable or unwilling to see that and felt instead that they had to just pick a side is whats made the whole thing so shit. JVL for instance defended Chris Williamson even when he was sticking up for holocaust denier Gilad Atzmon. Because they had picked their side.
 
Yes this. And the fact that so many people seem to have been unable or unwilling to see that and felt instead that they had to just pick a side is whats made the whole thing so shit. JVL for instance defended Chris Williamson even when he was sticking up for holocaust denier Gilad Atzmon. Because they had picked their side.

I was devastated that Francesca marinez (disabled actress) kept in supporting Williamson even after he left labour.

Apparently this helps dsiabled people
 
Yes this. And the fact that so many people seem to have been unable or unwilling to see that and felt instead that they had to just pick a side is whats made the whole thing so shit. JVL for instance defended Chris Williamson even when he was sticking up for holocaust denier Gilad Atzmon. Because they had picked their side.

Yep and Vanessa Beeley. I think JVL have done so much harm here. To the average block headed Labourite it looks like that the spectrum of Jewish opinion is either JLM or JVL.
 
But but they’ve got jewish in their name. So if you object to their support for truly dreadful people you’re promoting identity politics.
 
Yes this. And the fact that so many people seem to have been unable or unwilling to see that and felt instead that they had to just pick a side is whats made the whole thing so shit. JVL for instance defended Chris Williamson even when he was sticking up for holocaust denier Gilad Atzmon. Because they had picked their side.

  • I get crank-stick for not supporting CW on soc media, as do all Momentum / Lansman etc
  • CW was a liability, his tacit support for Beeley was inexcusable, his constant over focus on Palestine etc
  • But he never 'stuck up' for Atzmon - apologised for signing the petition, and claimed not to have heard of him ( which sounded like b*ll*cks)
  • Defence for CW by most reasonable (ish) people was that he was wrongly expelled for that final speech, claiming AS has been weaponised ( or exaggerated ) , and LP too defensive - and would guess that was the case for JVL - not re: Atzmon, which would be madness ( and which even he didnt try to defend )
  • these are important distinctions, re: this thread etc
 
Danny. Maybe you could tell me whether you think Mirwich genuinely thought that Solley was an anti Semite, or that the content of his email was anti Semitic, when she submitted her complaints about him to the Bar Council, his former chambers and the Labour Party.

If you think she was genuine then there's no point discussing the matter with you further.

On the other hand, if you think her complaints were disingenuous does her making those complaints did give you cause for concern?

If not, then as before, there's no point discussing the issue with you further.
 
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